(October 18, 2016 at 12:56 am)Arkilogue Wrote:

(October 18, 2016 at 12:33 am)chimp3 Wrote: Oh great one! Please fly away and when we are worthy please do pay us a visit!

"Just because you can doesn't mean you should."

I'm not great, the universe is great and what I have found makes it even greater in my eyes and the personal me even smaller in the direction of infinitesimal crush. This thing kicks my ass daily.

If I were eager for the fame and fortune ego trip, I would be all over the math/science/patenting/marketing of all this....rushing head long blinded by pride into self and world destruction.

Every single new science/technology has been employed one way or another to kill Man. You can toss your monkey shit at me all day and all night, I don't want the ramifications on my conscience....even though they still would be by proxy.  C'est la vie.

Don't worry! Your "working model" is as harmless as the latest Deepak Chopra book. Your not the first Woo Woo Man to embellish a Yogic spin off with sciencey sounding bullshit. You should team up with Lil Rik and subject each others claims to peer review. I would follow a thread like that for amusement.

(October 16, 2016 at 7:33 am)zak Wrote: This is my first actual post that is not a greeting.

I'd like to start out by saying that I am only sixteen years old; I know that it may seem irrelevant but I figured I'd just say so.

I have many atheist friends but some are religious. And being in the nature of friends, they will ask me questions about atheism. I'd also just like to know this for myself, because I am not entirely sure.

What do I say when somebody asks me about the Big Bang theory?

Anything from what happened before it, how did it start, etc.

I am aware that there is never a clear answer for this. I just would like to know if any of you have any quick and easy explanations for it.

Even if I, when asked this, cannot explain what it is, I can just turn it back on them. Ask them about the origin of God.

I want to thank you in advance for any future responses to this.

Have a fantastic Sunday. :p

Hi,


Hope you are well..

The big bang is a very broad topic..
But i can get your desire to know more about it..

The best advice I can give you, is start and learn about it.. read books, see documentaries, look at images and such..
The big bang argument is a well known argument theists usually use. Mostly, it is due to misunderstanding the idea behind the big bang...

The argument would usually be in the form of "How can an explosion create such complex things?"
Or the famous Boing 747 argument.. that saying the universe can be created from an explosion is the same as a Fully functional Boing 747 airplane will be created from an explosion..
 
In a nut shell:

The big bang theory was an Idea that rose after a discovery that the universe is expanding...
As more advanced telescopes were used, it was clear that the universe is growing and using special techniques (Like observing other light waves that are invisible to our naked eyes) to see the formation of the galaxies and stars in the past, we discovered that the universe was once much more dense...

Following this discovery, all things pointed to the fact that the universe was once a very dense point that in an instant burst started expanding to what we can observe today.
It is still a riddle what was there before the big bang, but assumptions vary and are mostly pointing to an energy that was there before.

After that, Some theories were made that if the universe is expanding, surely it will stop expanding at some point are start contracting again.. this was falsified with the discovery that not only that the universe is slowing down, rather the more distance we observe between starts and galaxies, the faster it spreads... 
As we don't really know what it is that pushes everything, we call it Dark matter.. but there is no idea yet what it really is.

Now... Regardless of the answers you know or not to provide, You can explain to your friends that the fact we don;t know something, doesn't mean that the claim of God is true...
So event if there is no proof for a Big bang.. There is not proof to God either.. so the best claim they can make is that Science is clueless as they are...
The difference is that science every day discovers more and more while religion remains the same

I think before the big band, there were dancehall bands, but I could be wrong

(October 18, 2016 at 7:17 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(October 17, 2016 at 11:20 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: Sorry, see bold corrections.

Oh, thank you, that clears it up, lol.

At your service!

(October 18, 2016 at 4:37 am)Alex K Wrote: There are brief moments when I think I can make sense of a bit, and then the next sentence comes and it's all out the window.

What parts make sense to you?

(October 17, 2016 at 11:39 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: The potential science/math/technological application of all this can tap into a great deal of power so I am focusing on the ideological and responsibility aspects first, lest we destroy ourselves with knowledge sans wisdom (again).  

Jesus Christ, you think highly of yourself.

You make me think of what it would be like if Deepak Chopra memorized a physics dictionary.

(October 18, 2016 at 5:11 pm)Faith No More Wrote:

(October 17, 2016 at 11:39 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: The potential science/math/technological application of all this can tap into a great deal of power so I am focusing on the ideological and responsibility aspects first, lest we destroy ourselves with knowledge sans wisdom (again).  

Jesus Christ, you think highly of yourself.  

You make me think of what it would be like if Deepak Chopra memorized a physics dictionary.

I think highly of the information. I think of myself like a blind toddler, blundering through universe, still learning how to speak.

(October 18, 2016 at 7:27 am)chimp3 Wrote: Don't worry! Your "working model" is as harmless as the latest Deepak Chopra book. Your not the first Woo Woo Man to embellish a Yogic spin off with sciencey sounding bullshit. You should team up with Lil Rik and subject each others claims to peer review. I would follow a thread like that for amusement.

And ounce of prevention....

(October 18, 2016 at 5:22 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: I think highly of the information. I think of myself like a blind toddler, blundering through universe, still learning how to speak.

You think you've understood something that no other human in history has been able to determine. You may tell yourself you're a blind toddler, but you clearly think you're one of the greatest blind toddlers ever.

Ego inflation compensation.