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New Clinton email controversy
#71
RE: New Clinton email controversy
(October 29, 2016 at 12:38 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(October 29, 2016 at 12:26 pm)Cecelia Wrote: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nat...story.html

the AP Wrote:That stance also left Comey, a career federal prosecutor who has served under both Republican and Democratic administrations, open to criticism from leaders in both parties that he was trying to influence the outcome of the presidential race.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/U...TE=DEFAULT

I need to retract what I said about him being required to notify Congress. I was under that impression, but my impression was wrong.

Maybe you're somewhat correct. When Comey was questioned by the House regarding Hillary's first email scandal he did tell them that he would notify them if there were any updates.
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RE: New Clinton email controversy
(October 29, 2016 at 12:18 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(October 29, 2016 at 12:10 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Let's hope you are right because the Orange alternative is too dire to contemplate!

As for my own part, I can't decide which one is worse lol. It's just pretty bad that it's come to the point of being between those 2.  Sad

The child raping neo nazi of course. The worst you can say about Hilary is that she was stupid with email security.

Oh, and to those who argued that Comey was required to disclose invsetigative materials to congress, any cop worth his salt would have told them that the legislature interfering in due process of the law is itself a crime and given them the two fingered salute. And that is what he would have done if Drumpfuck was the target.
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#73
RE: New Clinton email controversy
(October 29, 2016 at 12:18 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(October 29, 2016 at 12:10 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Let's hope you are right because the Orange alternative is too dire to contemplate!

As for my own part, I can't decide which one is worse lol. It's just pretty bad that it's come to the point of being between those 2.  Sad

It is not that hard to decide unless you just don't care.
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#74
RE: New Clinton email controversy
Wonder what Weiner might say (to save himself) if facing actual prison time for emailing smutty pictures of himself to teenage girls ??
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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#75
RE: New Clinton email controversy
(October 29, 2016 at 6:03 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(October 29, 2016 at 12:18 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: As for my own part, I can't decide which one is worse lol. It's just pretty bad that it's come to the point of being between those 2.  Sad

It is not that hard to decide unless you just don't care.

It really isn't. I dislike Hillary (intensely) but I am honest enough to see how worse Trump is. Hillary, overall, will do a lot of good for the American people (or at least she will try). No one can say the same for Trump. Trump is only looking out for himself.
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#76
RE: New Clinton email controversy
As far as their character and integrity go, they both seem equally pretty bad. Hilary is just more politically correct with how she says things. At the end of the day they are both greedy and dishonest and only out for themselves. I can't and won't stand behind either of them.
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#77
RE: New Clinton email controversy
(October 29, 2016 at 7:46 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: As far as their character and integrity go, they both seem equally pretty bad. Hilary is just more politically correct with how she says things. At the end of the day they are both greedy and dishonest and only out for themselves. I can't and won't stand behind either of them.

Yes, we get that. Terrible judgement in my opinion. But feel free to say it again one more time.
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#78
RE: New Clinton email controversy
(October 29, 2016 at 7:50 pm)Irrational Wrote:
(October 29, 2016 at 7:46 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: As far as their character and integrity go, they both seem equally pretty bad. Hilary is just more politically correct with how she says things. At the end of the day they are both greedy and dishonest and only out for themselves. I can't and won't stand behind either of them.

Yes, we get that. Terrible judgement in my opinion. But feel free to say it again one more time.

um ok
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

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RE: New Clinton email controversy
(October 29, 2016 at 7:46 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: As far as their character and integrity go, they both seem equally pretty bad. Hilary is just more politically correct with how she says things. At the end of the day they are both greedy and dishonest and only out for themselves. I can't and won't stand behind either of them.

As I said before, Drumpf is a child raping neo nazi. Nothing Hilary does even remotely comes close in the horribleness stakes.

It's like not being able to decide between a paper cut on your left pinkie or having your arm cut off and you bleeding to death.
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RE: New Clinton email controversy
Look Tazi, it all changes depending on what people feel is most important. (also, stop saying Drumpf andstuff, it just looks childish, really no better than when people say Hitlery).

CL may be willing to overlook Trumps faults and lack of any experience because he is on the side of an important issue to her. I'm guessing, abortion (possibly immigration? I don't know much of her social views, just the abortion stance). He wants to make abortion illegal again at the federal level. Other people dislike Trump but are willing to vote for him because of the supreme court issues (they want to repeal gay marriage, abortion, and see this country become more socially conservative again), or about immigration (they fear the other, and Trump play hard to those fears), etc.

She would not be the only person who looks sideways at Hillary for her social policies, the same policies you and I see as reasons to vote for her, are reasons CL may not like her. Everyone has different priorities. IT doesn't make CL blind or stupid, just different from you. If we can't stop name calling and being insulting, how do you think we will ever come together as a country? Hear her out. Find common ground. If you really believe Hillary is going to help our country and Trump hurt it, then give better reasoning ON THOSE COMMON GROUNDS than that Trump is an a-hole. We already all know that.

This is one of the reasons I think are politics have become more polorized, is because they have come to revolve more and more around social issues.

So here is my reasoning, CL, as to why I think Hillary will be better than Trump for all Americans, Liberal and conservative.
1) Experience. You may not like the fact that she is a lifelong politician, but would you hire an inexperienced person to do...well...anything important? The president is the highest level of politics in our country. It seems best, to me, to hire someone experienced at the job, even if her experience isn't all good. Would you hire someone who had never taken an engineering class to design and build a highrise building?

2) Diplomacy. She will keep foreign relations stable (regardless of rhetoric you may have heard). We have very good foreign relations right now in comparison to what they were in 2004. Trump insults, attacks, and sues literally everyone who he perceives has slighted him. How well do you think that will work when a country leader insults him, even on accident? Do you honestly believe he would be able to handle it in a mature and political manor?

3) Guts. Hillary has been under deep scrutiny, and even attack, her entire career. She can stand cool and calm while someone calls her terrible names right to her face. She has fought on with her career of choice, even though people dislike her, against all odds, she fights on.
Trump gives up and files bankrupcy, and blames everyone else for all of his woes, on a regular basis. Who do you want as president, a fighter or a quitter?

Yes, some policy may be against your personal opinion. I don't like all of her policies either. But these are the fundamental questions that we need to ask about ANY person we wish to vote for as president.

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