(October 30, 2016 at 10:59 pm)Tiberius Wrote: Oh! Noam Chomsky said it?!? Must be true! /s

What do you have against Chomsky? Too socialist I suppose. He is only one of the most respected intellectuals in the world, whether you agree with everything he says or not:

"Chomsky raised a different issue: that the US had no right to invade a country on the other side of the planet to install its own preferred puppet government, in defiance of the wishes of that country's population. In the leading journal of the American liberal intelligentsia, Chomsky basically accused America's liberal intelligentsia of moral bankruptcy." (ABC)

That's something I've said well before I ever knew about anything Chomsky has said. In fact I was about 20 when I first recognised the abhorrence of the USA's wars. And that was simply through recognising that the war in Afghanistan was hopelessly disproportionate to the 11-9-01 terrorist attack. The Iraqi was just further disgusted and angered me.

Why go after some Saudi that organised a terrorist attack against "the enemy" to retaliate against "the enemy's" involvement in the Middle East? Why not do something about Saudi Arabia instead? And no I don't mean military force, I mean by working the Saudis to progress out of the 13th century. The problem is still there, and it's only gotten worse since 2001 not better.

Anyway, Obama authorising Yemen to be bombed by airstrikes is just one clear example of a war crime. Let alone arming Saudi and god-knows how many "rebel groups" in the Middle East.

(October 30, 2016 at 6:50 pm)A Theist Wrote:

(October 30, 2016 at 6:41 pm)ReptilianPeon Wrote: Hard to believe how many e-mails the FBI found on the Weiner laptop. Approximately 650,000 e-mails were found. There's bound to be lots of good stuff in those. That is an insane amount of e-mails.
The Hill reports

Just saw that on the news a bit ago.

Must be all the e-mails Hilary deliberately tried to hide from law enforcement. It's looking like a cover-up gone wrong. And can't believe Wikileaks is being left to do the job entities like the Washington Post and the New York Times should be doing, like they did when Watergate was in the news. What happened to real journalism?

The Observer:
WikiLeaks: New York Times Propped Up Clinton, Subverted Sanders
For example:

Quote:In the latest WikiLeaks release of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta’s emails, several Times journalists are implicated in abandoning any semblance of objectivity to fulfill the agenda of the Clinton campaign. In July 2015, correspondent Mark Leibovich emailed the Clinton campaign a transcript of an interview he conducted with Clinton for them to proofread and edit as they saw fit.

(October 30, 2016 at 8:31 pm)Aractus Wrote: That's not a fresh revelation. The rise of Far-Right parties in Europe has been well documented, you can do a search on Google Scholar and find plenty of Journal articles in Sociology and Political Science on it. I suggest reading this paper which discusses the multicultural ideal against that of the monoethnic-cultural State ideal. You need to register to read it (free).

I don't need to read it, living at ground zero and all. And believe me, an Australian doesn't need to educate me on rightwingers in Europe or who and what encourages them.

(October 31, 2016 at 4:01 am)ReptilianPeon Wrote:

(October 30, 2016 at 6:50 pm)A Theist Wrote: Just saw that on the news a bit ago.

Must be all the e-mails Hilary deliberately tried to hide from law enforcement. It's looking like a cover-up gone wrong. And can't believe Wikileaks is being left to do the job entities like the Washington Post and the New York Times should be doing, like they did when Watergate was in the news. What happened to real journalism?

The Observer:
WikiLeaks: New York Times Propped Up Clinton, Subverted Sanders
For example:

Quote:In the latest WikiLeaks release of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta’s emails, several Times journalists are implicated in abandoning any semblance of objectivity to fulfill the agenda of the Clinton campaign. In July 2015, correspondent Mark Leibovich emailed the Clinton campaign a transcript of an interview he conducted with Clinton for them to proofread and edit as they saw fit.

It seems that Journalism and the news media has deteriorated to nothing more than a propaganda tool for politicians, especially for Clinton. No wonder the media polls low in the trust factor.

(October 30, 2016 at 8:57 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(October 30, 2016 at 3:38 pm)A Theist Wrote: Oh, so you don't care if you offended Evangelicals, eh.

I'm assuming that by identifying yourself as Catholic_Lady your faith is very important to you. Both Evangelicals and Catholics share many of the same issues that are important to them. If Hillary is elected she gets to appoint judges to the Supreme Court. What do you think would become of the issues that are so important to you if she's elected? Hope you reconsider about not voting for a presidential candidate.

My bold. 

I'm not sure where you came to that conclusion. Sorry if that was the impression I gave. It was not intended.

Just joking with you on that one, the boldened part.

But the rest is something I hope you take into consideration.

(October 31, 2016 at 4:34 am)abaris Wrote: I don't need to read it, living at ground zero and all. And believe me, an Australian doesn't need to educate me on rightwingers in Europe or who and what encourages them.

OK sure, I just thought you might be interested. For anyone else reading, the far-right parties plummeted following WWII but have been steadily increasing in popularity since the mid-late 70's (IIRC) in Western Europe.

(October 31, 2016 at 5:49 am)Aractus Wrote: OK sure, I just thought you might be interested. For anyone else reading, the far-right parties plummeted following WWII but have been steadily increasing in popularity since the mid-late 70's (IIRC) in Western Europe.

Actually it's been the late 80ies with the fall of the Iron Curtain being the trigger. The first instance of widespread Xenophobia, directed at Eastern Europeans at that time. In the case of Germany, even at citizens of the former GDR. That's what gave rise to the so called Republicans there. Long gone by now, but replaced by even more despicable forces. The territory of the former GDR, ironically, is now one of the biggest hunting grounds to recruit new rightwing extremists. Foremost Saxony.

(October 31, 2016 at 12:33 am)Sterben Wrote: For fuck sake can Americans please let this shit go, she will never be on tiral for this! Getting her in a court room for this would be like trying to get Vladimir Putin put on trial for the many murders he has commented or has told people to commit.

If I could roll my eyes any harder, my retinas would detach...

(October 31, 2016 at 6:55 am)LadyForCamus Wrote:

(October 31, 2016 at 12:33 am)Sterben Wrote: For fuck sake can Americans please let this shit go, she will never be on tiral for this! Getting her in a court room for this would be like trying to get Vladimir Putin put on trial for the many murders he has commented or has told people to commit.

If I could roll my eyes any harder, my retinas would detach...

Or even more absurdly like expecting Trump to do some jail time for low fiving women in the crotch.

(October 31, 2016 at 5:41 am)A Theist Wrote:

(October 31, 2016 at 4:01 am)ReptilianPeon Wrote: Must be all the e-mails Hilary deliberately tried to hide from law enforcement. It's looking like a cover-up gone wrong. And can't believe Wikileaks is being left to do the job entities like the Washington Post and the New York Times should be doing, like they did when Watergate was in the news. What happened to real journalism?

The Observer:
WikiLeaks: New York Times Propped Up Clinton, Subverted Sanders
For example:

It seems that Journalism and the news media  has deteriorated to nothing more than a propaganda tool for politicians, especially for Clinton. No wonder the media polls low in the trust factor.

Would you still be saying that if Trump were winning?   If Trump wins the election is he still going to insist it was rigged, and demand an investigation of the outcome?  Ya know...to make it fair for Hilary and all.  Is the FBI still rigged now that they are re-looking at the email server issue?  Or not anymore? And the polls?  Are the results of polling in Florida sound or rigged, now that it's neck and neck?  It's funny how you guys only complain about stuff being "rigged" when things aren't going well for your candidate, lol.