why is the immortal soul being over looked?

the body is merely a vessel of sorts, the important bit is the soul

(November 3, 2016 at 3:12 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(November 3, 2016 at 3:07 pm)Irrational Wrote: Take care not to conflate human with a human being.

Umm ok lol

You're laughing because you didn't get it.

(November 3, 2016 at 2:39 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(November 3, 2016 at 11:56 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Do you mind if I take this a step further? Is your idea of conception, and therefore human life, the moment that sperm penetrates egg and a zygote is formed? Or is it when the fertilized egg actually implants? Or is it a some time frame further down the line?

Next, do you consider abortion to be on the same level as homicide?

Edit: Maybe you could start a new thread outside of introductions. Or a couple of new threads.

When sperm meets egg and a whole new brand of human DNA is formed and begins to multiply. That's a new human being right there at the moment of conception.

Well thank you Emzap. hehehehehehe

FYI, sperm penetrating egg does not always result in a human being (even as a zygote) even though it is a new combination of human DNA and can multiply.

(November 3, 2016 at 6:37 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:

(November 3, 2016 at 2:39 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: When sperm meets egg and a whole new brand of human DNA is formed and begins to multiply. That's a new human being right there at the moment of conception.

Well thank you Emzap. hehehehehehe

FYI, sperm penetrating egg does not always result in a human being (even as a zygote) even though it is a new combination of human DNA and can multiply.

Heh, yeah I know I answered for him. Sowwy!

And well, he/she may die before getting the chance to mature enough to take the form of a person (either by miscarriage or failure to stick to the uterous), but that's still a human entity.

(November 3, 2016 at 5:09 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote:

(November 3, 2016 at 2:46 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Incorrect. A Catholic is free to interpret ot stories as either literal or fictolional.

Unless things have changed since I became an atheist, I believe you are mistaken.  Oh, everyone is free to interpret the stories as literal or fictional, of course, but official church doctrine is that the OT stories are all true.

Like I asked, what is the point in washing away original sin with baptism if the Adam & Eve story is false?

No sir you are mistaken.

(November 3, 2016 at 6:54 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(November 3, 2016 at 6:37 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Well thank you Emzap. hehehehehehe

FYI, sperm penetrating egg does not always result in a human being (even as a zygote) even though it is a new combination of human DNA and can multiply.

Heh, yeah I know I answered for him. Sowwy!

And well, he/she may die before getting the chance to mature enough to take the form of a person ..

Wait, are you talking about an embryo or Emzap?

(November 3, 2016 at 6:55 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(November 3, 2016 at 5:09 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: Unless things have changed since I became an atheist, I believe you are mistaken.  Oh, everyone is free to interpret the stories as literal or fictional, of course, but official church doctrine is that the OT stories are all true.

Like I asked, what is the point in washing away original sin with baptism if the Adam & Eve story is false?

No sir you are mistaken.

Oh and to answer the question, we still believe in original sin. None of us are perfect and we all have the potential to sin, and we all will at one point. Thats original sin. But that doesn't mean we are required to believe that the world was created in 7 days and that a snake told a woman to eat an apple, etc etc. Only the super old school catholics now a days believe that story is literal.

https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/7757....-literally

Quote:Pope: Don’t Take Bible Literally

Especially the part about not fucking the altar boys!

(November 3, 2016 at 6:54 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(November 3, 2016 at 6:37 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Well thank you Emzap. hehehehehehe

FYI, sperm penetrating egg does not always result in a human being (even as a zygote) even though it is a new combination of human DNA and can multiply.

Heh, yeah I know I answered for him. Sowwy!

And well, he/she may die before getting the chance to mature enough to take the form of a person (either by miscarriage or failure to stick to the uterous), but that's still a human entity.

Gestational trophobalstic disease (hydatidiform mole) can have 46XX and 46XY, normally considered human. It never develops fetal tissue but it does attach to the uterus and does multiply. It is definitely not human. Not going to show you the gross pathology picture. No woman should have to see that.

Quote: It is definitely not human. Not going to show you the gross pathology picture.

Apparently close enough for "jesus."