I don't want Trump to win FYI, but I think the media has seriously skewed the perception of Trump's voter base. Not Trump, he's actually that insane and ridiculous. But I'm really tired of people being painted as racists or bigots because they're voting Trump. To be honest, it shows a level of a privilege; the privilege of being able to vote against a candidate because you don't like the way they spoke about women, with no regard for how the nominees' platforms will affect blue-collar jobs. Because that's what a vast portion of Trump's voter base is: rural blue-collar workers whose jobs, historically speaking, are not protected by Democratic leadership. Like every Republican nominee in recent memory, Trump appeals to the blue-collar American who has watched so many jobs get shipped overseas. They're the sons and grandsons and great-grandsons of workers in a certain industry and they've watched that same industry that has kept their family employed vanish, and they place the blame on Democratic policy. So of course they're going to vote Trump.

In addition, I think Wikileaks is giving everybody a new reason not to vote for Clinton every week. The emails are a big deal. It is a big deal that somebody working a security job was communicating through an insecure and unauthorized channel; the fact that we can see all of these emails proves that. The leaked emails have proven that the Justice Department had given Clinton a "heads up" on certain things early in their investigation. The leaked emails have proven that Clinton was given prior notice of at least one of the questions in her CNN debate with Bernie Sanders. The leaked Wall Street speeches prove that Clinton told her Wall Street buddies that she would leave fracking alone, something completely antithetical to her campaign platform. The leaked emails, overall, show the American people that we were right about her... she is as crooked and corrupt as they come. And if that doesn't tick you off, at least a little bit, then I don't know what to say.

So in the end, I don't personally blame anybody for supporting Trump. It's a shame that the GOP didn't nominate someone sane, like John Kasich. I'm very much Democrat, but I am also passionate about keeping the government transparent and accountable. If the Republican nominee was Kasich or Rubio or even poor lil' Jeb, I'd have no problem voting for them to make a point. But now, I'm forced to hope Hillary wins something she certainly does not deserve.

I hope I answered the OP with all that.

Also relevant:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_YlvCQQDGmY

"And, for the first time in my life, I smoked a blunt".

That's what I'd do if I was american and Trump won tbh

(November 4, 2016 at 5:33 pm)Lucanus Wrote: Also relevant:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_YlvCQQDGmY

"And, for the first time in my life, I smoked a blunt".

That's what I'd do if I was american and Trump won tbh

That's what I plan on doing regardless of who wins

(November 4, 2016 at 4:19 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You're more invested than you think Napo.  With the looming possibility (dare I say near certainty?) of brexit, you can't have your partner in that "special relationship" floundering...then you'd be well and truly fucked.

America will still be top of the tree even if Trump turned out to be the disaster you lot think he will be. The monopoly is still with the west so I'm not too worried. At least Trump would actually support the "special relationship", Hillary would further divide our countries and follow the tactic of Obama IMO.

Some of the Trump voter base are bigoted racist fucks and vote for him for that reason; some of the Trump voter base are merely ignorant enough to be misled into thinking he's a good idea or ignorant enough to be misled into thinking Hilary is even worse when she is Clearly. Fucking. Not.

There's the ignorant bigoted Trump voters and the ignorant misled Trump voters. That's about it. I agree that the former is far worse but the latter is at best somewhat rather below mediocre, regardless of their good intentions.

(November 4, 2016 at 6:58 pm)Napoléon Wrote: America will still be top of the tree even if Trump turned out to be the disaster you lot think he will be.

Quote: The monopoly is still with the west so I'm not too worried. At least Trump would actually support the "special relationship", Hillary would further divide our countries and follow the tactic of Obama IMO.

Oh dear.

Yeah Hilary is so much worse than an unqualified narcissistic bigoted republicunt moron running his mouth off at every opportunity without even knowing what he's talking about.

(November 4, 2016 at 7:04 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote:



Oh dear.

Yeah Hilary is so much worse than an unqualified narcissistic bigoted republicunt moron running his mouth off at every opportunity without even knowing what he's talking about.

You know, this is why discussion is fucking shite on this forum ^.

Instead of actually presenting your case and speaking to someone rationally you just laugh at them for having a different opinion.

If Trump wins, it will lend support to the adage 'Anyone can grow up to be President.' I mean, except for the 'grow up' part.

Boru

(November 4, 2016 at 3:09 pm)Minimalist Wrote: 1. is absurd.  He's a billionaire and the only group he'll help is billionaires.

2. is true and very scary.

1 is not absurd. It's fact. Yes he's a billionaire, but he doesn't represent the political elite like Hillary does.

The reality is Joe Bloggs who works down at the corner shop isn't going to be president. Trump however is the furthest thing away from the establishment American voters have, compared to the other candidate who has any chance. That's the point here.

(November 4, 2016 at 2:08 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: Hmm I think he's the biggest douche in the universe but I'll play devil's advocate:

If fucking the world over is what you want, then he's your best bet.

There that's the best I've got.

And given how insane the world has been getting in this year alone, in and outside America (see Brexit; also, it's worth noting that, this year, Rodrigo Duarte recently ran for and won the presidency of the Philippines while making statements even more horrifying than Trump, even saying he wished he raped a missionary in 1989) the only good reason I can think of to vote for Trump is the world is just going so apeshit that expecting to do anything to help it is futile and voting for someone willing to make it worse is just going with the flow of history.