(November 13, 2016 at 1:12 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Any evidence at all would be a start, it's your claim so you need to provide evidence to support it

And are you interested in it?

(November 13, 2016 at 1:18 pm)Edward John Wrote:

(November 13, 2016 at 1:12 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Any evidence at all would be a start, it's your claim so you need to provide evidence to support it

And are you interested in it?

It you can provide some convincing, testable evidence of a god then everyone in the world will be interested in it.

(November 13, 2016 at 1:16 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote:

(November 13, 2016 at 1:04 pm)Edward John Wrote:   Jesus(God) (Matthew 5:44)

Was Jesus peaceful?

Jesus Wrote:Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. Matthew 10:34

Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. Luke 12:51

He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36

And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. Revelation 19:11

Was Jesus God?

Quote:Matthew 19:17, Mark 10:18
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

Matthew 27:46, Mark 15:34
My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Mark 16:19
So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

John 8:40
But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God.

John 14:28
My Father is greater than I.

John 20:17
I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

Acts 17:31
Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

1 Corinthians 11:3
The head of Christ is God.

1 Corinthians 15:28
And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Colossians 3:1
Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.

1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

1 Peter 3:21-22
Jesus Christ: who is ... on the the right hand of God.

P.S. If you don't quit if with the giant colored text I will slap you with a wet fish and call you a sillyface, you utter utter stupid dick.

We Catholics have another thing Called the catechism it interprets the Bible.


CCC446 In the Greek translation of the Old Testament, the ineffable Hebrew name YHWH, by which God revealed himself to Moses,59 is rendered as Kyrios, "Lord". From then on, "Lord" becomes the more usual name by which to indicate the divinity of Israel's God. The New Testament uses this full sense of the title "Lord" both for the Father and - what is new - for Jesus, who is thereby recognized as God Himself.60

CCC447 Jesus ascribes this title to himself in a veiled way when he disputes with the Pharisees about the meaning of Psalm 110, but also in an explicit way when he addresses his apostles.61 Throughout his public life, he demonstrated his divine sovereignty by works of power over nature, illnesses, demons, death and sin.

CCC448 Very often in the Gospels people address Jesus as "Lord". This title testifies to the respect and trust of those who approach him for help and healing.62 At the prompting of the Holy Spirit, "Lord" expresses the recognition of the divine mystery of Jesus.63 In the encounter with the risen Jesus, this title becomes adoration: "My Lord and my God!" It thus takes on a connotation of love and affection that remains proper to the Christian tradition: "It is the Lord!"64

CCC449 By attributing to Jesus the divine title "Lord", the first confessions of the Church's faith affirm from the beginning that the power, honor and glory due to God the Father are due also to Jesus, because "he was in the form of God",65 and the Father manifested the sovereignty of Jesus by raising him from the dead and exalting him into his glory.66

CCC450 From the beginning of Christian history, the assertion of Christ's lordship over the world and over history has implicitly recognized that man should not submit his personal freedom in an absolute manner to any earthly power, but only to God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ: Caesar is not "the Lord".67 "The Church. . . believes that the key, the center and the purpose of the whole of man's history is to be found in its Lord and Master."68

CCC451 Christian prayer is characterized by the title "Lord", whether in the invitation to prayer ("The Lord be with you"), its conclusion ("through Christ our Lord") or the exclamation full of trust and hope: Maran atha ("Our Lord, come!") or Marana tha ("Come, Lord!") - "Amen Come Lord Jesus!"69

(November 13, 2016 at 1:07 pm)Edward John Wrote:

(November 13, 2016 at 1:03 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: This is so old and tired but OK, show me your evidence Eddy Baby. Not argument, not debate, not philosophy, not crusty old stories from antiquity. Evidence.

What kind of Evidence, what type of evidence for God?

Any that is  "Not argument, not debate, not philosophy, not crusty old stories from antiquity". 

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? 

Doing the PGJ thing is not helping your cause.

If God exists in our mind only and is the greatest possible being and object which no greater being and object can be thought of then God by definition is greater than our minds, Therefore God must exist. The ontological argument shows that if God even possibly exists then God actually exists. Which means God is existence itself.

(November 13, 2016 at 9:26 am)Whateverist Wrote: All you got to do is produce one god - just one - and I personally will concede the matter to you

Assuming this did happen, then how would we know that this life-form isn't just a more evolved and different life-form? If it conformed to humanity's preconceptions of what constitutes a god, then how would we know that it isn't just showing us what we want to see?  Would humanity accept such a life-form without  a god label?

(November 13, 2016 at 1:32 pm)Edward John Wrote: If God exists in our mind only and is the greatest possible being and object which no greater being and object can be thought of then God by definition is greater than our minds, Therefore God must exist. The ontological argument shows that if God even possibly exists then God actually exists. Which means God is existence itself.

If god exists.... what if god doesn't exist?
This kind of statement does not provide any testable evidence
If I saw some convincing evidence then I would covert in a second, I would have to, that's what convincing means. I have not seen any evidence in 62 years but maybe you can provide some evidence that can have no other possible explanation.

(November 13, 2016 at 12:59 pm)Edward John Wrote: Which God can easily be answered, by a little bit of research on the different religion. There is no perfect God as the Christian God.

The Christian God is as imperfect as they come.  And either a liar or a fraud or non-existent.

(November 13, 2016 at 1:32 pm)Edward John Wrote: If God exists in our mind only and is the greatest possible being and object which no greater being and object can be thought of then God by definition is greater than our minds, Therefore God must exist. The ontological argument shows that if God even possibly exists then God actually exists. Which means God is existence itself.

If God exists in our mind only, then God shares equal credibility and evidence as the Tooth Fairy, vampires, werewolves, unicorns, and Harry Potter.

(November 13, 2016 at 9:25 am)Expired Wrote: Any evidence would be a start.

QFT


What ever happened to that "no preaching" rule?  That was a good one.