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(June 10, 2011 at 7:38 pm)Atheist Jew Wrote: Religion will probably not diminish in the United States. This country is the most religious first world country in the world.
Republicans keep on trying to get prayer in school and other delusional rubbish to be passed through the Senate via assorted "freedom of religion bills", Congressmen still believe that the Second Coming is a reason to destroy the environment and to the theoretical hell with the consequences, studies show that 60+ percent of Americans said they would not vote for an atheist, and, to top it off, Ann Coulter and Bill O'Reilly and all the other extreme right fanatics
are preaching hate against anyone that dares to disagree with or do something contradictory to the views of them and their target audience.
It's a lot easier to "prove" that any nonsense you spout is "correct" and "should be followed" if you can
claim to have "God" on your side or to take some nonsense scripture and claim, "What this really means
is...." and follow it with your own pet action of the day. Repeat it enough times, and it will soon be,
"Everybody knows that..." and "We NEED to (pet action)". The pet action can be quite destructive. But,
insist loudly enough and long enough that God wants it, and it'll be accepted.
"But for good people to do evil things, it takes religion." - Steven Weinberg
"Religion is the opiate of the masses." -- Karl Marx
(June 10, 2011 at 11:25 am)Andrastos Wrote: [quote='Castle' pid='144249' dateline='1307654574']
"Religion will dramatically shrink within 20 years."
Actually this is true, although dramatically is probably an understatement!
"I’m a Clairvoyant except I have to wait for it to come to me."
What do you mean by this, do you hear spirits? or does this info just enter you?
I’m a Clairvoyant Person without any super natural powers, that’s mainly a religious wise tale. I can’t imagine God given the Christians a plan with their road record. Also when claiming to know God or the spirit world and the higher energy tends to become more elusive and evasive to that claim.
How it works for me is I cast out to the Universe a question, if it is a silly or weak answer back, it’s because it’s was a weak question to begin with. Then I cast out a better question, it oddly give me a better answer than I could have imagined.
Nobody has been to the spirit world and come back. Yet with general world consensus about 90% of people sense a higher energy or some answer to a high energy source of good intention.
I’m very curiosity and conscious of my senses in both states at the same time. I do not understand a lot about clairvoyant or the paranormal and psychic abilities. All I do know is that it works for me and helps other people. I do know when people are going to die and I learned how to block it too . There are many shamanic figures, offices and practices throughout history. Jesus was said to be Shaman, I think he was an amateur shaman because he did not write things down himself, Look at it today, it caused many wrong translations
Despite all the others, I think that sounds wonderful!
I believe you have a real gift!
My mother was into metaphysics since I was young!
I'm aware of this energy you speak of too!
Also do you believe in spirit guides, or guardians?
I got a feeling this info you receive is from spirits, I read a lot of info, and what you’re saying really suggests this! Spirits being people that lived a life on earth and passed over!
It is said that spirits have the ability to drop thoughts into the mortal! And emotions, do you feel emotions or feelings of any sort when you receive info?
"Religion will dramatically shrink within 20 years."
Actually this is true, although dramatically is probably an understatement!
"I’m a Clairvoyant except I have to wait for it to come to me."
What do you mean by this, do you hear spirits? or does this info just enter you?
I’m a Clairvoyant Person without any super natural powers, that’s mainly a religious wise tale. I can’t imagine God given the Christians a plan with their road record. Also when claiming to know God or the spirit world and the higher energy tends to become more elusive and evasive to that claim.
How it works for me is I cast out to the Universe a question, if it is a silly or weak answer back, it’s because it’s was a weak question to begin with. Then I cast out a better question, it oddly give me a better answer than I could have imagined.
Nobody has been to the spirit world and come back. Yet with general world consensus about 90% of people sense a higher energy or some answer to a high energy source of good intention.
I’m very curiosity and conscious of my senses in both states at the same time. I do not understand a lot about clairvoyant or the paranormal and psychic abilities. All I do know is that it works for me and helps other people. I do know when people are going to die and I learned how to block it too . There are many shamanic figures, offices and practices throughout history. Jesus was said to be Shaman, I think he was an amateur shaman because he did not write things down himself, Look at it today, it caused many wrong translations
Quote:Despite all the others, I think that sounds wonderful!
I believe you have a real gift!
My mother was into metaphysics since I was young!
I'm aware of this energy you speak of too!
Also do you believe in spirit guides, or guardians?
I got a feeling this info you receive is from spirits, I read a lot of info, and what you’re saying really suggests this! Spirits being people that lived a life on earth and passed over!
It is said that spirits have the ability to drop thoughts into the mortal! And emotions, do you feel emotions or feelings of any sort when you receive info?
See Castle, this should be a HUGE red flag to you right here .... the crazy religious nut-job with all the stupid ideas and retarded conclusions thinks you're onto something wonderful!
It should make you SERIOUSLY question what you believe when a jello-head tells you that "you're really onto something!"
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(June 9, 2011 at 8:51 pm)Castle Wrote:
It will come down to something worst than the second world war in death tolls, Since Nuclear War is Mankind's greatest threat, . . . (rest cut for brevity)
If you don't count epidemic, drought, starvation, overpopulation, climate change, environmental destruction, &c.
Remember that WWI was not ended by an Allied victory; it was ended by the Spanish Flu. War (as of yet) has never had much of a long-term impact on populations. 350,000 new cases of poliomyelitis were reported in 1988, even today the number is about 1,000 a year, and most Western nations have abandoned mandatory polio vaccinations.
By the mid XVIII Century smallpox was killing 400,000 people a year. Smallpox is no longer vaccinated against, either. The global mortality rate for the 1918/1919 Spanish Flu pandemic is not known, but it is estimated that 20% died, or about 100,000,000. In the USA alone, 675,000. Now certain bonehead scientists have dug up the virus from people who died from it and are studying it in labs (like smallpox) on animals and in vitro.
Shouldn't be too long before someone somewhere has an "accident," or worse, such stuff gets stolen. (A suicide bomber with active polio or tuberculosis, perhaps?)
"Be ye not lost amongst Precept of Order." - Book of Uterus, 1:5, "Principia Discordia, or How I Found Goddess and What I Did to Her When I Found Her."
"Religion will dramatically shrink within 20 years."
Actually this is true, although dramatically is probably an understatement!
"I’m a Clairvoyant except I have to wait for it to come to me."
What do you mean by this, do you hear spirits? or does this info just enter you?
I’m a Clairvoyant Person without any super natural powers, that’s mainly a religious wise tale. I can’t imagine God given the Christians a plan with their road record. Also when claiming to know God or the spirit world and the higher energy tends to become more elusive and evasive to that claim.
How it works for me is I cast out to the Universe a question, if it is a silly or weak answer back, it’s because it’s was a weak question to begin with. Then I cast out a better question, it oddly give me a better answer than I could have imagined.
Nobody has been to the spirit world and come back. Yet with general world consensus about 90% of people sense a higher energy or some answer to a high energy source of good intention.
I’m very curiosity and conscious of my senses in both states at the same time. I do not understand a lot about clairvoyant or the paranormal and psychic abilities. All I do know is that it works for me and helps other people. I do know when people are going to die and I learned how to block it too . There are many shamanic figures, offices and practices throughout history. Jesus was said to be Shaman, I think he was an amateur shaman because he did not write things down himself, Look at it today, it caused many wrong translations
Quote:Despite all the others, I think that sounds wonderful!
I believe you have a real gift!
My mother was into metaphysics since I was young!
I'm aware of this energy you speak of too!
Also do you believe in spirit guides, or guardians?
I got a feeling this info you receive is from spirits, I read a lot of info, and what you’re saying really suggests this! Spirits being people that lived a life on earth and passed over!
It is said that spirits have the ability to drop thoughts into the mortal! And emotions, do you feel emotions or feelings of any sort when you receive info?
See Castle, this should be a HUGE red flag to you right here .... the crazy religious nut-job with all the stupid ideas and retarded conclusions thinks you're onto something wonderful!
It should make you SERIOUSLY question what you believe when a jello-head tells you that "you're really onto something!"
If a being with his highest priority in life is of Love to all creation is a religious jello-head nut job in your opinion, so let it be!
I would rather be a religious jello-head nut job, than a angry, resentful, irrational no real beliefs of her own lost Soul!
June 11, 2011 at 6:12 am (This post was last modified: June 11, 2011 at 6:53 am by Castle.)
(June 10, 2011 at 7:38 pm)Atheist Jew Wrote: Religion will probably not diminish in the United States. This country is the most religious first world country in the world.
Republicans keep on trying to get prayer in school and other delusional rubbish to be passed through the Senate via assorted "freedom of religion bills", Congressmen still believe that the Second Coming is a reason to destroy the environment and to the theoretical hell with the consequences, studies show that 60+ percent of Americans said they would not vote for an atheist, and, to top it off, Ann Coulter and Bill O'Reilly and all the other extreme right fanatics
are preaching hate against anyone that dares to disagree with or do something contradictory to the views of them and their target audience.
There is no word God in the USA Constitution, a lot of American fore father may have been closet atheist. It's not the atheist by numbers that will shrink Christian numbers down, it will be the non religious and the spiritual rather than religious type of people who will replace most of the Christian beliefs. One reason is almost half of American believe the earth is only 10,000 years old wail the majority of the people in the world today believe man is 180,000 years old. Most of the world population in third world countries amoug some like India and China that are doublling or tripling the USA economic growth too
As you can see, American is ready for a real rude awaking of Religious disbelief
"Religion will dramatically shrink within 20 years."
Actually this is true, although dramatically is probably an understatement!
"I’m a Clairvoyant except I have to wait for it to come to me."
What do you mean by this, do you hear spirits? or does this info just enter you?
I’m a Clairvoyant Person without any super natural powers, that’s mainly a religious wise tale. I can’t imagine God given the Christians a plan with their road record. Also when claiming to know God or the spirit world and the higher energy tends to become more elusive and evasive to that claim.
How it works for me is I cast out to the Universe a question, if it is a silly or weak answer back, it’s because it’s was a weak question to begin with. Then I cast out a better question, it oddly give me a better answer than I could have imagined.
Nobody has been to the spirit world and come back. Yet with general world consensus about 90% of people sense a higher energy or some answer to a high energy source of good intention.
I’m very curiosity and conscious of my senses in both states at the same time. I do not understand a lot about clairvoyant or the paranormal and psychic abilities. All I do know is that it works for me and helps other people. I do know when people are going to die and I learned how to block it too . There are many shamanic figures, offices and practices throughout history. Jesus was said to be Shaman, I think he was an amateur shaman because he did not write things down himself, Look at it today, it caused many wrong translations
Quote:Despite all the others, I think that sounds wonderful!
I believe you have a real gift!
My mother was into metaphysics since I was young!
I'm aware of this energy you speak of too!
Also do you believe in spirit guides, or guardians?
I got a feeling this info you receive is from spirits, I read a lot of info, and what you’re saying really suggests this! Spirits being people that lived a life on earth and passed over!
It is said that spirits have the ability to drop thoughts into the mortal! And emotions, do you feel emotions or feelings of any sort when you receive info?
See Castle, this should be a HUGE red flag to you right here .... the crazy religious nut-job with all the stupid ideas and retarded conclusions thinks you're onto something wonderful!
It should make you SERIOUSLY question what you believe when a jello-head tells you that "you're really onto something!"
I do not belong to any group, I don’t have any bubble to burst and I always consider all sides and learn from all sides. I hope that genuine intelligence is to realize there is no other side.
Jellyhead or jellyfish You know about the Immortal jellyfish and the Bible?
I'm not putting down the Bible or against it. I'm just want to understand how God created everything perfect on earth and dose he not find natural things like marijuana, gays and jelly fish to be perfect. Yet, God inspires things like religion, military, and wealth in the Bible, or dose he?
The turritopsis nutricula species of jellyfish may be the only animal in the world to have truly discovered the fountain of youth. There may be no natural limit to its life span. Scientists say the hydrozoan jellyfish is the only known animal that can repeatedly turn back the hands of time and revert to its polyp state (its first stage of life).Turritopsi can regenerate its entire body over and over again, it is able to reverse its aging processes ...its 650 million years old, it travels it prays in all oceans and all depth of sea. It weighs up to 450 pounds. The jelly population is many times greater than humans. The jellyfish can show that the Bible IS written by people and not by any God. As we shall see, the man of God is the opposite of a jellyfish in almost every respect.
That mean the Jellyfish is 100 times older than Adam and Eve, That is as much as I know about immortal
"Religion will dramatically shrink within 20 years."
Actually this is true, although dramatically is probably an understatement!
"I’m a Clairvoyant except I have to wait for it to come to me."
What do you mean by this, do you hear spirits? or does this info just enter you?
I’m a Clairvoyant Person without any super natural powers, that’s mainly a religious wise tale. I can’t imagine God given the Christians a plan with their road record. Also when claiming to know God or the spirit world and the higher energy tends to become more elusive and evasive to that claim.
How it works for me is I cast out to the Universe a question, if it is a silly or weak answer back, it’s because it’s was a weak question to begin with. Then I cast out a better question, it oddly give me a better answer than I could have imagined.
Nobody has been to the spirit world and come back. Yet with general world consensus about 90% of people sense a higher energy or some answer to a high energy source of good intention.
I’m very curiosity and conscious of my senses in both states at the same time. I do not understand a lot about clairvoyant or the paranormal and psychic abilities. All I do know is that it works for me and helps other people. I do know when people are going to die and I learned how to block it too . There are many shamanic figures, offices and practices throughout history. Jesus was said to be Shaman, I think he was an amateur shaman because he did not write things down himself, Look at it today, it caused many wrong translations
Quote:Despite all the others, I think that sounds wonderful!
I believe you have a real gift!
My mother was into metaphysics since I was young!
I'm aware of this energy you speak of too!
Also do you believe in spirit guides, or guardians?
I got a feeling this info you receive is from spirits, I read a lot of info, and what you’re saying really suggests this! Spirits being people that lived a life on earth and passed over!
It is said that spirits have the ability to drop thoughts into the mortal! And emotions, do you feel emotions or feelings of any sort when you receive info?
See Castle, this should be a HUGE red flag to you right here .... the crazy religious nut-job with all the stupid ideas and retarded conclusions thinks you're onto something wonderful!
It should make you SERIOUSLY question what you believe when a jello-head tells you that "you're really onto something!"
If a being with his highest priority in life is of Love to all creation is a religious jello-head nut job in your opinion, so let it be!
I would rather be a religious jello-head nut job, than a angry, resentful, irrational no real beliefs of her own lost Soul!
'Andrastos'
It's OK; I'm a little nutty to think love is the most important behavior in the world too and sense we are co creator with God. Where I differ is I think everyone is God that makes me nutty in both camps.
You wanted to know how I receive info? It’s like a small voice that come into the mind, and from experience if I do not listen to it,it always get me into trouble
(June 11, 2011 at 7:28 am)Castle Wrote: You wanted to know how I receive info? It’s like a small voice that come into the mind, and from experience if I do not listen to it,it always get me into trouble.
That's called intuition.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
June 11, 2011 at 1:22 pm (This post was last modified: June 11, 2011 at 1:39 pm by Castle.)
(June 11, 2011 at 8:00 am)FaithNoMore Wrote:
(June 11, 2011 at 7:28 am)Castle Wrote: You wanted to know how I receive info? It’s like a small voice that come into the mind, and from experience if I do not listen to it,it always get me into trouble.
That's called intuition.
Yes, yet how would one explain intuition to most people let alone greater skeptic like atheist and I won't get even into imagination part just yet?
1 immediate apprehension by the mind without reasoning.
2 immediate apprehensions by a sense.
3 immediate insights. (Intuitionalism. Philos. The belief that primary truths and principles
4. the ability to see any event, any object from a viewpoint of the cosmic whole,
5. The knowing of something without prior knowledge or the use of reason.
6 All stands revealed the hearts, the motives, and the causes of all events.
Intuition can be said a person who develops intuition can know anything, without the barriers of time, space and any other obstructions. The intuitive type: Creative people, people with hunches whose chief concern is with future possibilities. They are able to sense the invisible and the impalatable. They perceive wholes and compress much into a flash. Poets and prophets are often intuitive.
I know of a few other Artists that have these abilities like messenger to our nervous system of society, yet most people are too numb to hear.
(June 11, 2011 at 3:05 am)Anymouse Wrote:
(June 9, 2011 at 8:51 pm)Castle Wrote:
It will come down to something worst than the second world war in death tolls, Since Nuclear War is Mankind's greatest threat, . . . (rest cut for brevity)
If you don't count epidemic, drought, starvation, overpopulation, climate change, environmental destruction, &c.
Remember that WWI was not ended by an Allied victory; it was ended by the Spanish Flu. War (as of yet) has never had much of a long-term impact on populations. 350,000 new cases of poliomyelitis were reported in 1988, even today the number is about 1,000 a year, and most Western nations have abandoned mandatory polio vaccinations.
By the mid XVIII Century smallpox was killing 400,000 people a year. Smallpox is no longer vaccinated against, either. The global mortality rate for the 1918/1919 Spanish Flu pandemic is not known, but it is estimated that 20% died, or about 100,000,000. In the USA alone, 675,000. Now certain bonehead scientists have dug up the virus from people who died from it and are studying it in labs (like smallpox) on animals and in vitro.
Shouldn't be too long before someone somewhere has an "accident," or worse, such stuff gets stolen. (A suicide bomber with active polio or tuberculosis, perhaps?)
More people today are dying more from obesity than starvation, poverty is very harmful too. For the first time in human history our life expectancy is going into reverse and fast food and super market maybe one of the greatest killers.
Those are slow unnoticed killers, it will much largest natural disasters and nuclear blow out would change the mind of the 80% people's consciousness
(June 9, 2011 at 6:47 pm)Epimethean Wrote: There seems to be an evolutionary process at work in the major religions of the world. Few truly polytheistic (dinosaurs among religion) religions remain powerful, having been supplanted by their more radical and aggressive (mammals among religion) monotheistic progeny. There seems a push toward extinction, as evidenced by the rise of atheism in the public view, and how well it tends to get on with science.
The larger question seems to be: Will mankind evolve enough to let religion run its full course toward extinction, or will the outdated beliefs destroy (or at least massively hamper) its chance to do so in some holy nuclear disaster?
Although, on second thought, such a disaster might do just the right thing in bringing people full-speed modern and ready to see religion for the species-suicide it is.
agree:
devil:Jew smiling down onto hell forever, won't cut it any more.
(June 11, 2011 at 3:00 am)Cinjin Wrote: See Castle, this should be a HUGE red flag to you right here .... the crazy religious nut-job with all the stupid ideas and retarded conclusions thinks you're onto something wonderful!
It should make you SERIOUSLY question what you believe when a jello-head tells you that "you're really onto something!"
If a being with his highest priority in life is of Love to all creation is a religious jello-head nut job in your opinion, so let it be!
Your highest priority in life is set by a self-admitted emotion that just happens to "feel" powerful to you. So yes, as for my conclusion of you, I will "let it be"
Quote:I would rather be a religious jello-head nut job, than a angry, resentful, irrational no real beliefs of her own lost Soul!
Angry? perhaps, at times I suppose - but than again wasn't your master, Jesus too.
Resentful? Towards what??? Resentment needs an object. How could I possibly resent a life like yours. I am completely free. You are a slave to magical man in the sky.
Irrational? Now that's just your own delusion. Irrational is living your entire life according to the words of goat herders who lived thousands of years ago and believed in talking bushes and people floating into heaven. Nothing I’ve said in this thread is irrational.
No real beliefs? I have well defined beliefs ... that I don't have to go around jamming down other people's throats with utterly ridiculous arguments and 2000 year old regurgitated rhetoric.
Her? Cinjin, pronounced (sin-jun), I'm a male, as my profile clearly states.
Lost soul? Only you and your fellow dipshits believe that my soul is lost. And since you can't get your own head out of your ass long enough to prove arguments we already know are unprovable, I'd say that makes you the angry, resentful, irrational jello-head who is simply terrified of the dark.
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Jew smiling down onto hell forever, won't cut it any more.
