Penniless enemies of the state don't typically get a fancy burial complete with tomb. In fact they tend to be left to decompose in view of the public. That's kind of the point.

That's why the whole Joseph of Aramathea character had to be invented, too.  An excuse was needed to get "jesus'" sorry ass down off the cross.  The Romans left the corpse up there until it rotted off and then had it thrown in a garbage dump.  So instead of that we get a supposed "jewish noble" a member of the Sanhedrin with a Greco-Roman style name who magically shows up and begs Pilate for the body.  Pilate, being a fucking wimp for the purposes of the gospels, agrees.  It's the kind of silliness which can only fool believers who are desperate to believe.

Pilate was such a sweet guy, allowed the local subjugated inferiors to free an insurrectionary of their choice (doing the exact opposite of his job, undermining both himself and Rome) and even threw in the fresh carcass as a bonus.

Yup, the complete opposite of the picture of him painted by Philo and Josephus.

Genuine article not so keen on deliberately fucking himself then. Suppose you probably don't make prefect with that kind of behavior. Insert topical quip.

(November 23, 2016 at 12:46 am)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: Penniless enemies of the state don't typically get a fancy burial complete with tomb. In fact they tend to be left to decompose in view of the public. That's kind of the point.

Their modesty wouldn't have been preserved by a loin cloth as Jesus was depicted in most Christian artistry either.

Sometimes rather unfortunately:

"Come at me bro!"

(November 23, 2016 at 1:28 am)Minimalist Wrote: Yup, the complete opposite of the picture of him painted by Philo and Josephus.

I love how he washed his hands clean like a wimp.  Doesn't seem much like an allegory does it?  Or Jesus Barrabas (Son of The Father) murderer and terrorist getting a free pass into the wild because of a non-existent Jewish tradition, while innocent Jesus "Son of The Father" being cast as the scapegoat gets crucified between two thieves.  Doesn't sound allegorical at all does it? Then we have the miracles of the earthquakes breaking rocks, the sun darkening for 3 hours and the zombie march through Jerusalem seen by many. 

The alleged crucifixion of Jesus is the sort of evidence that Erhmann and Aractus love to think is certain, because it is the majority consensus of scholars with the "right" accreditation and the majority of these scholars have Christian biases where their jobs, career paths and perceived salvation depends on Jesus being historical. Can anyone see anything wrong with that?

The coup d'etat for me is that their Jesus of Nazareth is a Jesus of Nowhere.  See http://www.nazarethmyth.info/SBL_2012_Sa...areth).pdf

(November 23, 2016 at 7:44 am)Stimbo Wrote: Sometimes rather unfortunately:

I thought that only happened at hangings.