(November 30, 2016 at 5:07 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

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(November 30, 2016 at 4:37 pm)Tazzycorn Wrote: No they are not. I live in a country where until 1974 a married woman was legally her husband's non-wasting chattel, ie with the same legal status as the dining table, because it was based on catholic theology which hasn't changed since then.

Regarding women's power within the church, how many women were part of the conclave which settled definitively the church's position on the family and women's reproductive rights? 0, yes that's right not one woman involved. Face facts c_l you're part of a church that considers you a thing, or at best a slave.

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Then I'd say that sounds like a cultural thing more than any sort of official Church teaching. If you are saying Catholic theology teaches that women are objects, the burden is on you to show the Catechism verse that states such. 

Quote:Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)

"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion.

Quote:Your comment was that women's senior most position in the Church is a flower arranger. Yes, that comment is 100% false. 

Quote:But anyway, as far as reproductive rights go - our teaching on abortion is based on our teaching concerning human dignity and the belief that it is immoral to take away innocent human life. It is not based on a belief that women are objects. Ironically enough, it is a fundamental belief that every human being has inherent and equal dignity, regardless of anything. Including age and gender.  

Quote:Also ironically enough, my aunt's pro life stance, which stemmed from her Catholicism, is what saved my sister when she was in my teenage mom's womb. Because SHE, a woman, was/is not an object or a "thing." But a human being who deserves to stay alive.

(December 1, 2016 at 4:03 pm)Ignorant Wrote: Or maybe it just means they need to look into some other method of biblical interpretation besides Fundamentalism?

(December 1, 2016 at 6:28 pm)Luckie Wrote: Sure it's in the old testament, the less regarded part of the bible,

(December 1, 2016 at 8:46 pm)Tonus Wrote:

(December 1, 2016 at 6:28 pm)Luckie Wrote: Sure it's in the old testament, the less regarded part of the bible,

Poor Yahweh, he gets treated like that uncle that finagles an invite to all of the family functions, and everyone tries to pretend he's not there even after he gets blitzed on cheap beer and falls into the pool.

(December 1, 2016 at 2:16 pm)Luckie Wrote: OP

I put together a few links you may find relevant. 

The first has a list of all the transitional fossils. I'd do a search for Tiktaalic, it's the transition from fish to land animal. Oh and if you want a modern day transition? Look up Skinks! they're migrating into the mountains and can both lay eggs aNd give live birth! 

Te rest of the links are just to cknversations here at AF past that might be relevant to your studies on cosmological event, etc.

Cheers!


http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
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http://atheistforums.org/thread-44724-po...and+effect


http://atheistforums.org/thread-36611.ht...and+effect

Fine tuning
http://atheistforums.org/thread-45868-po...smological

(December 1, 2016 at 10:22 pm)Balaco Wrote: I'm not sure how common it is, but in general why do you guys think some atheists end up converting to a religion?

(December 1, 2016 at 10:22 pm)Balaco Wrote: For now, I've been doing some lighter research into atheists who converted into religion. Leah Libresco for example was apparently a notable atheist blogger who converted to Catholicism as it satisfied her questions about morals, primarily. I'm not sure how common it is, but in general why do you guys think some atheists end up converting to a religion?

ChristianToday.com Wrote:America's Bible Belt states indulge in more online porn than other less religious states

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A new study has found that US states with a higher degree of religiosity are more likely to be searching for sex on the web.

The study was compiled by researchers at Brock University in Ontario, Canada, and based on two years of data from Google Trends across US states.

Researchers found that states identified as religiously conservative and politically conservative were indulging in more online pornography than other more liberal states.

Religiously conservative states had higher proportions of searches for generalised sex terms, while politically conservative states were more likely to use specific terms like "free porn" or "xxx".

"Across two separate years, and controlling for demographic variables, we observed moderate-to-large positive associations between: greater proportions of state-level religiosity and general web searching for sexual content and greater proportions of state-level conservatism and image-specific searching for sex," said the study authors.


They concluded that higher degrees of sexual restriction may be a contributing factor in the findings.

"It is possible that liberal citizens in states higher in religiosity or conservatism search more for sexual content due to living in a more sexually-restricted environment," they said, according to the Daily Mail.

The news will be disheartening to churches that are increasingly recognising the problem of pornography consumption among those sitting in their pews each Sunday.

A recent Barna study commissioned by Prove Men Ministries found that there was little difference between Christians and non-Christians when it came to levels of pornography consumption.

While 64 per cent of Christian men and 15 per cent of Christian women said they viewed pornography at least once a month, this figure was 65 per cent among non-Christian men and 30 per cent among non-Christian women.

A massive 79 per cent of Christian men aged 18 to 30 said they watched pornography at least once a month, while nearly a third (29 per cent) said they watched it daily.

Prove Men Ministries president Joel Hesch said the issue needed to be openly addressed in the church and that the church should be a "safe place" to talk about it.

"[Pornography] is addicting. It is a problem not just affecting individuals, but families. The church needs to be the frontrunner in this," he said.  

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