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Atheists, tell me, a Roman Catholic: why should I become an atheist?
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RE: Atheists, tell me, a Roman Catholic: why should I become an atheist?
December 1, 2016 at 4:03 pm
Or maybe it just means they need to look into some other method of biblical interpretation besides Fundamentalism?
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RE: Atheists, tell me, a Roman Catholic: why should I become an atheist?
December 1, 2016 at 6:28 pm (This post was last modified: December 1, 2016 at 7:21 pm by Mystical.)
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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RE: Atheists, tell me, a Roman Catholic: why should I become an atheist?
December 1, 2016 at 6:39 pm
(December 1, 2016 at 4:03 pm)Ignorant Wrote: Or maybe it just means they need to look into some other method of biblical interpretation besides Fundamentalism?

How many souls can a heretic win for Jesus here ?
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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RE: Atheists, tell me, a Roman Catholic: why should I become an atheist?
December 1, 2016 at 8:46 pm
(December 1, 2016 at 6:28 pm)Luckie Wrote: Sure it's in the old testament, the less regarded part of the bible,

Poor Yahweh, he gets treated like that uncle that finagles an invite to all of the family functions, and everyone tries to pretend he's not there even after he gets blitzed on cheap beer and falls into the pool.
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RE: Atheists, tell me, a Roman Catholic: why should I become an atheist?
December 1, 2016 at 9:39 pm
(December 1, 2016 at 8:46 pm)Tonus Wrote:
(December 1, 2016 at 6:28 pm)Luckie Wrote: Sure it's in the old testament, the less regarded part of the bible,

Poor Yahweh, he gets treated like that uncle that finagles an invite to all of the family functions, and everyone tries to pretend he's not there even after he gets blitzed on cheap beer and falls into the pool.

ROFLOL 

You crack me up!
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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RE: Atheists, tell me, a Roman Catholic: why should I become an atheist?
December 1, 2016 at 10:22 pm
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RE: Atheists, tell me, a Roman Catholic: why should I become an atheist?
December 1, 2016 at 10:25 pm
(December 1, 2016 at 10:22 pm)Balaco Wrote: I'm not sure how common it is, but in general why do you guys think some atheists end up converting to a religion?

Everyone has their own beliefs for their own reasons. I can't generalize this one. You'd have to ask the individual to see if you agree with their reasons.
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RE: Atheists, tell me, a Roman Catholic: why should I become an atheist?
December 1, 2016 at 10:35 pm (This post was last modified: December 1, 2016 at 10:35 pm by Whateverist.)
Yeah, I don't know either. I think it must always be an individual choice, making the reasons individual as well. I don't think there is any concrete basis upon which the choice becomes simple for everyone. We all bring our own preferences and desires to the decision. What kind of life do we want to live, which choice is compatible with that life?
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RE: Atheists, tell me, a Roman Catholic: why should I become an atheist?
December 1, 2016 at 10:52 pm
(December 1, 2016 at 10:22 pm)Balaco Wrote: For now, I've been doing some lighter research into atheists who converted into religion. Leah Libresco for example was apparently a notable atheist blogger who converted to Catholicism as it satisfied her questions about morals, primarily. I'm not sure how common it is, but in general why do you guys think some atheists end up converting to a religion?

"notable atheist blogger"? Have you tried to actually find any "atheistic" entries from her? And if she really bases her morality on a book condoning rape, infanticide, genocide, incest, slavery... I'd really be scared of her.


Theists can convert to atheism, and atheists can convert to theism, it mostly happens during personal emotional traumas, for example a parent might leave the faith that'd shun their child for being gay, similarly a parent might arrive at faith in order to find comfort for their child's death. Reason and logic can help you with seeing the reality, but reality is harsh and not everyone is willing to face it, sometimes the comfort of faith is much more welcoming.
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RE: Atheists, tell me, a Roman Catholic: why should I become an atheist?
December 2, 2016 at 2:59 am (This post was last modified: December 2, 2016 at 3:01 am by Mystical.)
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!

Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.

Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

Quote:Some people deserve hell.

I say again:  No exceptions.  Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it.  As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.

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