I used the term shitfaced quite a lot when I was in my 20's and I'm American.

Yep Americans use that term all the time as well.

(December 4, 2016 at 2:42 am)operator Wrote: Smoked some bud and got shitfaced on patron silver last weekend. First time in a long time. Nothing bad happened... Had a really good time, danced with a bunch of girls at the bar and watched my buddies make a fool of themselves. Honestly though it just reminded me of why I don't want to go back to that life.

Two years ago I was shooting heroin and smoking crack on a daily basis and never want to return to that. Drinking and smoking is honestly not worth it. And for anyone considering moderation, I think you'll find its not worth it.

I smoke cannabis in moderation (around 4-5 times a week, generally at night.) I don't see the problem with it. It really is radically different from other substances.

(December 5, 2016 at 8:49 am)paulpablo Wrote:

(December 4, 2016 at 2:42 am)operator Wrote: Smoked some bud and got shitfaced on patron silver last weekend. First time in a long time. Nothing bad happened...  Had a really good time, danced with a bunch of girls at the bar and watched my buddies make a fool of themselves. Honestly though it just reminded me of why I don't want to go back to that life.  

Two years ago I was shooting heroin and smoking crack on a daily basis and never want to return to that.  Drinking and smoking is honestly not worth it. And for anyone considering moderation, I think you'll find its not worth it.

Are you from the UK?  I don't think I've heard an american use the term shitfaced before.  But then I didn't think many people smoked crack in the UK.

USA! USA! USA!

(November 13, 2016 at 7:11 am)Gemini Wrote:

(November 11, 2016 at 5:59 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Be aware of the cult behavior in AA. There are those that will tempt you. And they disguise it well.

I've been to several groups this week, but my "home" group is an LGBT-friendly group which seems to be pretty free of that. Seems like a very liberal and intellectually mature group of people.

Anyway, this is day 9 without alcohol. Go me!

I'd say save your life first and then worry about your religious status.

(December 5, 2016 at 10:13 am)Aegon Wrote: I smoke cannabis in moderation (around 4-5 times a week, generally at night.) I don't see the problem with it. It really is radically different from other substances.

Don't get me wrong, there certainly are some people who can go back to moderate smoking or drinking after having struggles with addiction. But honestly I think it's rare that it doesn't eventually turn back into a serious problem for many people.

For me it is too easy to slip back into old habits and convince myself that "things will be different this time" or "I'll do it right this time" or "I won't let it get out of control this time." But chances are things will not be different. I will not "do it right." I will probably not "keep it under control." That is the addictive part of my brain at work trying to convince me to give in.

That's why I'm making sure that the weekend I had recently was a one time thing. I had fun, I don't regret it but I can't let it happen again. I have worked too hard to get to where I am to get back into that lifestyle.

With that being said, if you enjoy smoking cannabis, more power to you! I loved weed and used to be a huge stoner and honestly I functioned fine on it. Went to work high, did everything high and those were some good times to be honest. Plus the weed now days is amazing.

AVRT is a powerful tool ... good on you to recognize your AV and take action against it. I can't do moderation, and will not try, myself. BTDTGTT.

(December 5, 2016 at 8:49 am)paulpablo Wrote:

(December 4, 2016 at 2:42 am)operator Wrote: Smoked some bud and got shitfaced on patron silver last weekend. First time in a long time. Nothing bad happened...  Had a really good time, danced with a bunch of girls at the bar and watched my buddies make a fool of themselves. Honestly though it just reminded me of why I don't want to go back to that life.  

Two years ago I was shooting heroin and smoking crack on a daily basis and never want to return to that.  Drinking and smoking is honestly not worth it. And for anyone considering moderation, I think you'll find its not worth it.

Are you from the UK?  I don't think I've heard an american use the term shitfaced before.  But then I didn't think many people smoked crack in the UK.

I'm from Dumbtrumpistan and I use it.

(December 5, 2016 at 7:20 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: AVRT is a powerful tool ... good on you to recognize your AV and take action against it. I can't do moderation, and will not try, myself. BTDTGTT.

Yea I've seen you talk about Rational Recovery. I attend SMART Recovery meetings and I'm sure we discuss a lot of the same techniques and tools there.

No doubt. I'm a cafeteria recovery guy, not wedded to one approach ... whatever's clever, right?