(December 23, 2016 at 3:15 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: I noticed that, atheists are so discouraged by a brutal worldview of theists(burn or serve), that they can are ready endlessly hide under the scientific material worldview, until actual God shows up.

Let your god show up, then. What pitiful morons you are to be so attached to an nonexistent notion that you see its manifestation in everything just so you can believe it. An even slightly intelligent designer would have made an infinitely better you than the squeaking wishthinking diot you actually are.

I think what people would call hard atheism is unscientific.
People who claim to know there is no God which is basically claiming knowledge about something that isn't testable.
In general practical terms though most atheists just reject religion. And since the mainstream religions make unscientific claims then the absence of belief in those claims could give someone a scientific advantage.

Atheism is only a lack of belief in a God, nothing more... Iow, generally someone who is not convinced that there is a God (note: it's not the same as saying God does not exist, although some atheists do take that position). It's that atheists are more likely to be naturalists and base their beliefs on evidence and science is a method based on the natural, evidence etc instead of speculation and faith.

(December 23, 2016 at 3:11 pm)AAA Wrote:

(December 23, 2016 at 3:10 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote: NOPE

Why not? What do you think about cells?

I think they are nifty. What do you think about cells? Tell us about their "design".

(December 23, 2016 at 3:20 pm)paulpablo Wrote: I think what people would call hard atheism is unscientific.
People who claim to know there is no God which is basically claiming knowledge about something that isn't testable.
In general practical terms though most atheists just reject religion. And since the mainstream religions make unscientific claims then the absence of belief in those claims could give someone a scientific advantage.

Would you call people who say there is not a big bowl of spaghetti levitating 5000 Kms  over the North Pole of Jupiter "unscientific"?

Science is about making probability weighted statements.  If the probability of a statement being true, based on what is know, can judged overwhelming, it is waste of breadth to hedge. Any intelligent person, when hearing an unhedged statement about an overwhelming probability, knows the subtlety. Only religious idiots invested in the overwhelmingly improbable somehow being acknowledged as true, would quibble. Just because religious morons take offense at that statement that their god's chance of existing is on par with a bowl of spehatti floating 5000 Kms over Jupiter does not make it less scientific to say "the god of christians does not exist" then to say "the said levitating bowl of spaghetti does not exist"

(December 23, 2016 at 3:23 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:

(December 23, 2016 at 3:11 pm)AAA Wrote: Why not? What do you think about cells?

I think they are nifty. What do you think about cells? Tell us about their "design".

Never mind cells, look at the human body, is it designed by a god? If it is then the god is useless. Only an idiot would have a common opening for food, water and breathing, any 1st year engineering student could come up with a better design. Would you buy a car with just one opening to fill with fuel, water and air?

Since science is pretty much the study and understanding of reality, and thus it goes well with atheism4


As for cells, they are tiny hodgepodge collection of smaller biological units and naturally occurring chemicals.

(December 23, 2016 at 3:27 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote:

(December 23, 2016 at 3:23 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: I think they are nifty. What do you think about cells? Tell us about their "design".

Never mind cells, look at the human body, is it designed by a god? If it is then the god is useless. Only an idiot would have a common opening for food, water and breathing, any 1st year engineering student could come up with a better design. Would you buy a car with just one opening to fill with fuel, water and air?

(December 23, 2016 at 3:19 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:

(December 23, 2016 at 3:15 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: I noticed that, atheists are so discouraged by a brutal worldview of theists(burn or serve), that they can are ready endlessly hide under the scientific material worldview, until actual God shows up.

Let your god show up, then.   What pitiful morons you are to be so attached to an nonexistent notion that you see its manifestation in everything just so you can believe it.  An even slightly intelligent designer would have made an infinitely better you than the squeaking wishthinking diot you actually  are.

I didn't say I was a worshiping any God.

But, the problem with atheism is that theist doesn't lose anything by trying to become a more caring person, even if he accepts fear of hell as a motivator to some degree.

 And that's what is pissing you off so much, because you so easily went into to name calling mode.

(December 23, 2016 at 3:11 pm)AAA Wrote:

(December 23, 2016 at 3:10 pm)Aoi Magi Wrote: NOPE

Why not? What do you think about cells?

Others have already responded, I just want to add, baseless speculations don't really help us find out about reality. God is not a viable answer for our lack of knowledge.