I find this video very disturbing if it's even partially true...

I find the threat from Trump more pressing.

The guy speaking is a far-right UK politician - the kind that's too far right for UKIP. He doesn't seem to be providing any evidence, only his opinions and anecdotes. There is no shortage of alarmists of his kind in this country and fear-mongering is obviously in-fashion right now. That's why we have Brexit.

(December 24, 2016 at 6:05 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: The guy speaking is a far-right UK politician - the kind that's too far right for UKIP. He doesn't seem to be providing any evidence, only his opinions and anecdotes. There is no shortage of alarmists of his kind in this country and fear-mongering is obviously in-fashion right now. That's why we have Brexit.

The same guy believes that "political correctness" is a marxist terrorist plot to destroy western industry, the nuclear family and eventually create a one world state. He's a nutjob who has no grasp on reality.

(December 24, 2016 at 5:51 am)ignoramus Wrote: I find this video very disturbing if it's even partially true...

The situation is bad, but not for the reasons mentioned. There are muslim minorities of give or take 4 percent. Go figure how dangerous to the overall culture that is.

The situation is bad because fear mongering like that led to the rebirth of nationalism, complete with instrumentalised religion and the extreme right cropping up everywhere like turds in a clogged toilet. They need fear, they need scapegoats, and you only have to replace islam or muslim in the speeches with jew to see where this is going.

Soi, yes, the secular system of collaboration between countries is threatened. But the danger's coming from the right. Very similar to the 30ies of the last century. Complete with instrumentalising the economic crisis. Before 2008 rightwingers were on the fringe in most countries.

Nah Europe will be fine. It is endless after all.

(December 24, 2016 at 6:47 am)abaris Wrote:

(December 24, 2016 at 5:51 am)ignoramus Wrote: I find this video very disturbing if it's even partially true...

The situation is bad, but not for the reasons mentioned. There are muslim minorities of give or take 4 percent. Go figure how dangerous to the overall culture that is.

The situation is bad because fear mongering like that led to the rebirth of nationalism, complete with instrumentalised religion and the extreme right cropping up everywhere like turds in a clogged toilet. They need fear, they need scapegoats, and you only have to replace islam or muslim in the speeches with jew to see where this is going.

Soi, yes, the secular system of collaboration between countries is threatened. But the danger's coming from the right. Very similar to the 30ies of the last century. Complete with instrumentalising the economic crisis. Before 2008 rightwingers were on the fringe in most countries.

Ok ... That's a relief...
Aabaris, so no end of European culture, no civil war on the horizon, in the next 10 years, in your opinion...

(December 24, 2016 at 7:38 am)ignoramus Wrote: Aabaris, so no end of European culture, no civil war on the horizon, in the next 10 years, in your opinion...

Civil war? Between whom exactly?

We may sink into the shitter within the next ten years. Poland and Hungary already are up to their eyeballs in the stinky brown mass. Poland with the added fun of being turned into a near theocracy.

Yes, that's what's at stake. And that's the real danger to the way of life for everyone rooting for secular and democratic values.

(December 24, 2016 at 7:38 am)ignoramus Wrote: Ok ... That's a relief...
Aabaris, so no end of European culture, no civil war on the horizon, in the next 10 years, in your opinion...

I fully expect the world to be dragged into conflict by the mismanagement of a certain bewigged US president.
He's not in power yet but has already pissed off china and restarted the Nuclear arms race.

Well, actually, Putin did.

And by the weird rules of MAD as postulated by Kissinger etall, Trump made the correct textbook reply. Putin knows where he's at now, and with his GDP = to Italy to work with, this is pretty much where it will stop. Putin will find some other venue to be a turd wipe in.

There's no shortage of real stuff to rag on Trump about, we don't need to make up things.


(I haven't worked out the wassup on China yet)