(January 18, 2017 at 11:52 am)Stimbo Wrote:

(January 18, 2017 at 7:54 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Pulse, meet Little Rik:

You know, literally every time I look at that avatar all I see is this:



I honestly don't know why.

I always see that in my minds eye.



That's what the banks handed out in the 60ies to children on october 31st.

Now, David Carradine and his NDE's had it going on. Woot Woot!

(January 18, 2017 at 1:44 pm)Asmodee Wrote:

(January 17, 2017 at 8:30 pm)Pulse Wrote: How else can we continue to discuss atheism if we leave science out of it? Atheists constantly say there's no evidence for God, isn't that a scientific statement?

Atheism and science are not even remotely related.  The two have nothing in common.  Most atheists accept most science, but one can both be atheistic and deny all science.

Agree with you, Asmodee.  Popular comedian and atheist Bill Maher famously rejects that vaccines are safe or called for.  Being an atheist doesn't require science, naturalism or an above average IQ.  It is just the lack of belief in gods.  Full stop.

(January 18, 2017 at 2:29 pm)Whateverist Wrote:

(January 18, 2017 at 1:44 pm)Asmodee Wrote: Atheism and science are not even remotely related.  The two have nothing in common.  Most atheists accept most science, but one can both be atheistic and deny all science.

Agree with you, Asmodee.  Popular comedian and atheist Bill Maher famously rejects that vaccines are safe or called for.  Being an atheist doesn't require science, naturalism or an above average IQ.  It is just the lack of belief in gods.  Full stop.

Hasn't he "evolved" on that issue over the last couple of years?  I seem to remember that he used to be pretty adamant that he wasn't an atheist, but now has no problem accepting the moniker.  I may be mistaken, though.

(January 18, 2017 at 2:05 pm)abaris Wrote: That's what the banks handed out in the 60ies to children on october 31st.

Why? To harvest their organs at night?

(January 18, 2017 at 2:38 pm)Asmodee Wrote:

(January 18, 2017 at 2:29 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Agree with you, Asmodee.  Popular comedian and atheist Bill Maher famously rejects that vaccines are safe or called for.  Being an atheist doesn't require science, naturalism or an above average IQ.  It is just the lack of belief in gods.  Full stop.

Hasn't he "evolved" on that issue over the last couple of years?  I seem to remember that he used to be pretty adamant that he wasn't an atheist, but now has no problem accepting the moniker.  I may be mistaken, though.

Do you mean about the vaccine?  If so, I hadn't heard he has changed his position.  But he has always copped to being an atheist since I've been watching his show.

BUMP

(January 17, 2017 at 8:59 pm)Pulse Wrote: God gives meaning to our lives by His very existence; with God existing, we have a chance at Eternal Life and Love, those are the Only things that give meaning to our otherwise pointless lives that end either in a hole in the ground or cremation oven.

(January 17, 2017 at 9:06 pm)Stimbo Wrote: How do you know this?

How come nobody ever seems to want to answer that?

(January 18, 2017 at 3:11 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Why? To harvest their organs at night?

Older than Haloween in Continental Europe. It was called world savings day and was to promote getting an account.

(January 18, 2017 at 3:18 pm)Stimbo Wrote: BUMP

(January 17, 2017 at 8:59 pm)Pulse Wrote: God gives meaning to our lives by His very existence; with God existing, we have a chance at Eternal Life and Love, those are the Only things that give meaning to our otherwise pointless lives that end either in a hole in the ground or cremation oven.

(January 17, 2017 at 9:06 pm)Stimbo Wrote: How do you know this?

How come nobody ever seems to want to answer that?

Because they have no answers?  It's a question I ask all the time and never get any answers from theists.  How do they know anything that they claim to know about their supposed gods?  No clue.

(January 18, 2017 at 3:15 pm)Whateverist Wrote:

(January 18, 2017 at 2:38 pm)Asmodee Wrote: Hasn't he "evolved" on that issue over the last couple of years?  I seem to remember that he used to be pretty adamant that he wasn't an atheist, but now has no problem accepting the moniker.  I may be mistaken, though.

Do you mean about the vaccine?  If so, I hadn't heard he has changed his position.  But he has always copped to being an atheist since I've been watching his show.

Yeah, I seem to remember being extremely disappointment at him being anti-vaccine and I also seem to recall some point where he said he wasn't an atheist.  It was probably on Real Time, I would guess, at least 5 or 6 years ago.

Actually, I just found it and it was WAY earlier than I thought.  It was apparently in 2002.  Have I known who he was that long?  It's on his Wikipedia page under the heading "Religion", though the linked reference is anything but informative of the exact source of the quote.

As for the vaccines thing, I could have sworn he had softened considerably on that, but didn't exactly "come out" about being wrong, just kind of slyly changed his message.  It seems to me he still talked with a look of skepticism on his face, but "said all the right things".  Again, I may be wrong.