(January 22, 2017 at 5:48 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: This is worrying isn't it!

Yes, it is. This feeling of grandeur more than anything else. He's not your usual idiot, he's lost all contact with planet earth.

(January 22, 2017 at 8:01 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: You have your Hitler.

He's not Hitler. He's a danger on his own merit. And Hitler only lost touch with reality later on. Not right at the start.

(January 22, 2017 at 8:28 am)abaris Wrote:

(January 22, 2017 at 5:48 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: This is worrying isn't it!

Yes, it is. This feeling of grandeur more than anything else. He's not your usual idiot, he's lost all contact with planet earth.

(January 22, 2017 at 8:01 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: You have your Hitler.

He's not Hitler. He's a danger on his own merit. And Hitler only lost touch with reality later on. Not right at the start.

I wouldn't be sure about that. The man who wrote Mein Kampf was clearly cookoo for coco pops, and that was 1924. And you have to remember Hitler was willing to thrash the German economy to build a "world beating" army the day he entered office, he was willing to thrash the whole apparatus of government to ensure nobody could become powerful enough to challenge him, he was looking to enact the final solution almost from day one and he was massively paranoid, seeing conspiracies against him round every corner.

If anything Trump is probably more stable today than Hitler was on 30/01/1933.

(January 22, 2017 at 9:33 am)Tazzycorn Wrote: I wouldn't be sure about that. The man who wrote Mein Kampf was clearly cookoo for coco pops, and that was 1924.

As compared to his time - no, he wasn't. There were many sharing his thoughts. Not only in Germany, but in the whole world. Also "Mein Kampf" is quite an elaborate piece of propaganda. Hitler designed and reinvented his own biography to suit the overall climate of the time and the region. That certainly wasn't the work of a mad man but a calculated piece of labor.

Same for the first years of his reign. Since he already had plans for invasion he didn't care about debt. The spoils of war would take care of that. He only lost touch with reality in the last two years.

(January 22, 2017 at 12:23 pm)Mathilda Wrote: Also as pointed out elsewhere, people are now arguing about the size of the crowds rather than the fact that there have been protests all over the world.

Kind of goes hand in hand. Probably less people at the actual inauguration than at the protests.

Trump will never accept anything to be true that does not serve to glorify him.  In his own mind he is a deity in all but name.  The question is to what degree the Republican Party, which also hardly ever accepted any reality inconvenient for its own political aggrandizement, will go to protect its means to securing 2-3 Supreme Court seats.

In practice, this country no longer accept the existence of, much less the need for, apolitical competence, apolitical expertise, and apolitical facts.

KellyAnne Conway has perfected the complete non sequitur, and has coined the term "alternative facts."

(January 22, 2017 at 5:48 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: This is worrying isn't it!

Not really.