The sad thing, at least to me, is that NDEs are clearly real. What a truly fascinating thing-- and I think some of the NDEs could really shed light on what it means to be alive, to be conscious, and so on. But since there are so many nuts around the issue, we kind of throw the baby out with the bath water.
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 (February 9, 2017 at 9:54 pm)bennyboy Wrote: The sad thing, at least to me, is that NDEs are clearly real. What a truly fascinating thing-- and I think some of the NDEs could really shed light on what it means to be alive, to be conscious, and so on. But since there are so many nuts around the issue, we kind of throw the baby out with the bath water. Wait! Atheists never throw the baby out, unless they've gone off... Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni: "You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"  (February 9, 2017 at 9:54 pm)bennyboy Wrote: The sad thing, at least to me, is that NDEs are clearly real. What a truly fascinating thing-- and I think some of the NDEs could really shed light on what it means to be alive, to be conscious, and so on. But since there are so many nuts around the issue, we kind of throw the baby out with the bath water. I agree, for the most part. While I'm not entirely convinced that these things are clearly real, there does seem to be at least something worth investigating. It might even turn out to be true, in some respect. But all the effort going in to convince people by sheer force isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
(February 9, 2017 at 9:56 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Atheists never throw the baby out, unless they've gone off... That's why I swear by tupperware.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
(February 9, 2017 at 10:03 pm)Stimbo Wrote:(February 9, 2017 at 9:56 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Atheists never throw the baby out, unless they've gone off... Dead Sea Tupperware? *Movie reference* Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni: "You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"
Thrrp - ah, still fresh!
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
 (February 9, 2017 at 9:56 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:(February 9, 2017 at 9:54 pm)bennyboy Wrote: The sad thing, at least to me, is that NDEs are clearly real. What a truly fascinating thing-- and I think some of the NDEs could really shed light on what it means to be alive, to be conscious, and so on. But since there are so many nuts around the issue, we kind of throw the baby out with the bath water. If they were true, then that would be quite scary! Many of these NDEs report hellish visions. (February 9, 2017 at 10:19 pm)Mirek-Polska Wrote:(February 9, 2017 at 9:56 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Wait! Because these people have heard the stories and likely, have an unconscious fear of a mythical place. Remember, the threat of hell is how the church has maintained control over large populations for centuries. They couldn't maintain the control (and keep the money rolling in if they said, "If you're good you'll go to heaven. But if you're bad, well, you'll still go to heaven but god will be VERY cross with you!" Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni: "You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"  (February 9, 2017 at 10:19 pm)Mirek-Polska Wrote:(February 9, 2017 at 9:56 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Wait! I once had a man begin to tell me of his NDE. I was interviewing him. I pretended not to hear him and asked the next question. He did not press the issue. NDE's are nonsense. "What if they are true?" is a variant of Pascals wager.
God thinks it's fun to confuse primates. Larsen's God!
(February 9, 2017 at 10:19 pm)Mirek-Polska Wrote:(February 9, 2017 at 9:56 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: Wait! http://www.near-death.com/religion/chris...baker.html do you believe this story? |
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