(March 16, 2017 at 5:53 pm)alpha male Wrote: Trump got elected without producing them. There's no reason to produce them now (unless he leaked the one showing him paying taxes). People say it's a tradition for candidates to release their returns. So what? He ran as an outsider.

This just shows you don't understand why candidates produce their tax returns.

(March 17, 2017 at 12:04 pm)Aegon Wrote:

(March 16, 2017 at 5:53 pm)alpha male Wrote: Trump got elected without producing them. There's no reason to produce them now (unless he leaked the one showing him paying taxes). People say it's a tradition for candidates to release their returns. So what? He ran as an outsider.

This just shows you don't understand why candidates produce their tax returns.

You cant work at a bank without a financial background check. I'd say if you want to hold any office and especially office of the President, I don't care if it is only a "tradition" it should be law. The freedom of information act should be enough to force his tax returns to be public. He isn't simply a dog catcher paid by the county, he is the President.

Gotta kudos team trump (TT) for their strategy on this one....

Select the tax return where trump has paid the most tax (doesn't matter if is was under some rule that he wants to abolish, no big surprise on that), and 'leak' it anonymously to a media outlet. Said outlet really have no option but to make a big deal out of it (it's an exclusive after all) even if the content is underwhelming. Meanwhile since it wasn't released officially TT don't have to answer questions on why it wasn't the full return, or from 12 years ago, the media outlet ends up looking ridiculous, republicans can scream 'see - he did pay tax' and accuse democrats of baseless assertions, fence-sitters will be placated and attention is deflected temporarily from obamacare and the travel ban.

Well played team trump, well played. [emoji57]

(March 17, 2017 at 1:14 pm)ukatheist Wrote: Gotta kudos team trump (TT) for their strategy on this one....

Select the tax return where trump has paid the most tax (doesn't matter if is was under some rule that he wants to abolish, no big surprise on that), and 'leak' it anonymously to a media outlet. Said outlet really have no option but to make a big deal out of it (it's an exclusive after all) even if the content is underwhelming. Meanwhile since it wasn't released officially TT don't have to answer questions on why it wasn't the full return, or from 12 years ago, the media outlet ends up looking ridiculous, republicans can scream 'see - he did pay tax' and accuse democrats of baseless assertions, fence-sitters will be placated and attention is deflected temporarily from obamacare and the travel ban.

Well played team trump, well played. [emoji57]

Damn sure was well played! Can you, per chance, post the proof or a link that this was in fact just a well played plan so I can repost it on Facebook?

You want a link to proof of my opinion? You can link to the post above if you like, fill ya boots!

I'm confused though....you don't think it was planned by TT? I think there are strong indications that TT leaked the document ...the client copy stamp, being published on the White House site, the deafening silence from TT about the leak (look at the amount of noise being made about Trump being bugged, which may or may not have even happened, yet his private tax returns are leaked and he just brags about how it shows that he has paid taxes).

I don't really see anything controversial in my post, it 's pretty a standard political MO to bury bad news using distraction, and TT are bossing it at the moment [emoji38]

(March 17, 2017 at 3:11 pm)ukatheist Wrote: You want a link to proof of my opinion? You can link to the post above if you like, fill ya boots!

I'm confused though....you don't think it was planned by TT? I think there are strong indications that TT leaked the document ...the client copy stamp, being published on the White House site, the deafening silence from TT about the leak (look at the amount of noise being made about Trump being bugged, which may or may not have even happened, yet his private tax returns are leaked and he just brags about how it shows that he has paid taxes).

I don't really see anything controversial in my post, it 's pretty a standard political MO to bury bad news using distraction, and TT are bossing it at the moment [emoji38]

Yeah, I know. But, you know how people are. Without something more concrete they're just going to say indications don't mean anything without hard evidence or that you're just buying into conspiracy theories, yada, yada...well, you know how that shit goes. Those bastards.

(March 17, 2017 at 3:37 pm)A Theist Wrote:

(March 17, 2017 at 3:11 pm)ukatheist Wrote: You want a link to proof of my opinion? You can link to the post above if you like, fill ya boots!

I'm confused though....you don't think it was planned by TT? I think there are strong indications that TT leaked the document ...the client copy stamp, being published on the White House site, the deafening silence from TT about the leak (look at the amount of noise being made about Trump being bugged, which may or may not have even happened, yet his private tax returns are leaked and he just brags about how it shows that he has paid taxes).

I don't really see anything controversial in my post, it 's pretty a standard political MO to bury bad news using distraction, and TT are bossing it at the moment [emoji38]

Yeah, I know. But, you know how people are. Without something more concrete they're just going to say indications don't mean anything without hard evidence or that you're just buying into conspiracy theories, yada, yada...well, you know how that shit goes. Those bastards.

Can't tell if you're screwing with me [emoji1]

I'll happily admit that what I posted is my own pet conspiracy theory. If more information comes along I'll revise it accordingly. At the moment I think it's both plausible and likely. Others are free to disagree!

I like exterior politics as ever. Like the Tuga that I am, I will shrug and continue doing what I am doing every day.

"Broke a leg? Minor injury. Broke both legs? At least still can talk. Got tongue cut off? At least it aint dead. Is it dead? Well at least it aint suffering"

(March 17, 2017 at 3:49 pm)ukatheist Wrote:

(March 17, 2017 at 3:37 pm)A Theist Wrote: Yeah, I know. But, you know how people are. Without something more concrete they're just going to say indications don't mean anything without hard evidence or that you're just buying into conspiracy theories, yada, yada...well, you know how that shit goes. Those bastards.

Can't tell if you're screwing with me [emoji1]

I'll happily admit that what I posted is my own pet conspiracy theory. If more information comes along I'll revise it accordingly. At the moment I think it's both plausible and likely. Others are free to disagree!

(March 17, 2017 at 2:02 pm)A Theist Wrote:

(March 17, 2017 at 1:14 pm)ukatheist Wrote: Gotta kudos team trump (TT) for their strategy on this one....

Select the tax return where trump has paid the most tax (doesn't matter if is was under some rule that he wants to abolish, no big surprise on that), and 'leak' it anonymously to a media outlet. Said outlet really have no option but to make a big deal out of it (it's an exclusive after all) even if the content is underwhelming. Meanwhile since it wasn't released officially TT don't have to answer questions on why it wasn't the full return, or from 12 years ago, the media outlet ends up looking ridiculous, republicans can scream 'see - he did pay tax' and accuse democrats of baseless assertions, fence-sitters will be placated and attention is deflected temporarily from obamacare and the travel ban.

Well played team trump, well played. [emoji57]

Damn sure was well played! Can you, per chance, post the proof or a link that this was in fact just a well played plan so I can repost it on Facebook?