Atheists keep on saying that they follow logic but in reality they go against logic.  
But let me put in simple terms what is and is not logic.  

Most people feel satisfied after eating or after having sex or after they got a new car.
Unfortunately this feeling of satisfaction doesn't last very long indeed.  
After a short time that feeling goes away and the action need to be done once again and again and again.  
In this way most people think that this repetition is the way to go and therefore it is logic and make sense.

This is not logic.  
Logic is when the feeling of satisfaction is permanent not temporary.
Smart people come to understand that physical-material things can not possibly bring a permanent
state of peace of mind and happiness that is why they work on actions that fulfill a state of permanent
feeling.

Peace of mind come from within so the work need to be done within.
Forget about an external God.
The real God is you and is all within.
You only need to understand who you are, all the rest will follow.

That's the most hopelessly confused definition of logic I've ever seen.

How many joints does one need to smoke to be able to write all of that?

(March 18, 2017 at 10:16 am)Alex K Wrote: That's the most hopelessly confused definition of logic I've ever seen.

Logic is what make sense and works in order to bring progress.
All the rest is not logic.
Logic is to understand how the system works too.
To live life after life without understanding how to bring real progress to ourselves is not logic that is why most people keep on struggling in vain ending nowhere.

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(March 18, 2017 at 10:24 am)ma5t3r0fpupp3t5 Wrote: How many joints does one need to smoke to be able to write all of that?

It may be bizarre to you ma but I start following logic the day that I stop with drugs.  

Nobody 'follows logic' but it isn't a bad idea to utilize logic to maximize one's chances of achieving what one wishes to. Logic as such is contentless and directionless. Logic clarifies the precise implication of propositions. I hardly recognize any of what you wrote, Rik, as having much to do with logic.

(March 18, 2017 at 11:06 am)Whateverist Wrote: Nobody 'follows logic'

Not true.
Smart people do follow logic but of course this planet is not so evolved to have many smart people.
I am sure that in this vast universe there are millions and millions of other planets where there is life.
Some are less evolved than us and some more evolved and in these last places I am sure there are
a lot of smart people who follow logic.
I doubt however that among these smart people in these evolved planets there are any atheists.  

Quote:but it isn't a bad idea to utilize logic to maximize one's chances of achieving what one wishes to.

Good idea but rather than be all about wishes is all about the search for permanent peace of mind.
It is a fact that humans keep on searching again and again until peace of mind become a reality.
Those who say that they are happy with this physical-material situations only fool themselves.

Quote:Logic as such is contentless and directionless.  Logic clarifies the precise implication of propositions.

Oh, please Whatever, stop with this intellectual jargon and make it simple.
Logic lead to progress (way up).
Non logic lead to REgress (way down).
As simple as that.

Quote:I hardly recognize any of what you wrote, Rik, as having much to do with logic.

If you don't then tell me where peace of mind come from other then within.  

(March 18, 2017 at 11:31 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(March 18, 2017 at 11:06 am)Whateverist Wrote: I hardly recognize any of what you wrote, Rik, as having much to do with logic.

If you don't then tell me where peace of mind come from other then within.  

Me: What you wrote would seem to have fuck all to do with A.

Rik: But if you don't tell me where B comes, where else can C come from if not D?


So what I'm not seeing is how B, C and D relate to A. *backs slowly away from thread*

(March 18, 2017 at 10:24 am)ma5t3r0fpupp3t5 Wrote: How many joints does one need to smoke to be able to write all of that?

Back in the day, no amount would make me go quite as cray as little rik. He is just naturally stupid.

If ignorance is bliss, this amount of stupid must be fucking nirvana.