Quote:That seems to be a popular narrative, but when ever I ask the person making that claim to provide an example of the bible 'cherry picking' they can't ever seem to find a legit example of it.

How many WalMart workers have you stoned to death for working on the sabbath, Dripshit.  You see.  You are just a phony after all.

Quote:Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.

Ex 31:14

(March 30, 2017 at 9:59 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(March 30, 2017 at 9:48 am)Drich Wrote: You are aware not everyone cherry picks right? That just because you or chirstians you know can't reconcile the whole of scripture does not mean others can't. It simply means your version of Christianity is not complete.

For instance, in Christianity/Biblical Christian no one can claim to be without sin yet we are still all saved. How? Because the book of Romans goes into great detail explaining that out righteousness is not dependent on where we sin or not. Our salvation is based on whether Christ did or not.

Paul tells us over and over we are all slaves to sin. This means we will never stop sinning. That means we can stop beating ourselves up over sin as it relates to salvation. As no one can master or conquer what controls/own him.

YES YOU DO, 

Drich, there is not ONE religion on the face of the planet as an umbrella label that does not have competing sub sects and individuals that cant agree as to how to follow their holy writings. EVERYONE thinks they are not cherry picking.

If you had something universal you could beat everyone to the patent office and sell your product in every nation. Religion is based on false perception, cherry picking and confirmation bias.

Humans like to claim to be good, like to claim to have the patent on morality. Most humans get sold their religions at birth. Ask a Sunni, they will claim they got the correct interpretation of the Koran and are not cherry picking. Ask a Shiite they will also claim they are not cherry picking. Ask a Tibet Buddhist, they will claim they are not cherry picking. Ask a Chinese Buddhist they will claim they are not cherry picking. Ask a Japanese Shinto Buddhist, they will claim they are not cherry picking. As a Obama voting Baptist they will claim they are not cherry picking. Ask a Trump voting baptist they will claim they are not cherry picking. Ask an Irish Catholic same thing, ask a Irish protestant, same thing.

7 billion humans and magically, lucky us we were lucky enough to run into you. Nope sorry, you are cherry picking.

The one guy who was not born into anything had no bias to confirm who simply follows what the bible says on page. That is the indicator of the non cherry picker. The one who does not default to commentary on a doctrinal issue, but one who can point to book chapter and verse.

There are a lot of non cherry pickers out there however many of them tend to be leglist/those who only follow point of law. Legalist tend to be elitist and would not spend much time with the weak or fallen, maybe that is why you don't seem to know of them. 

Can you point to anything I have cherry picked here in the last 8 years?

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(March 30, 2017 at 12:08 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:That seems to be a popular narrative, but when ever I ask the person making that claim to provide an example of the bible 'cherry picking' they can't ever seem to find a legit example of it.

How many WalMart workers have you stoned to death for working on the sabbath, Dripshit.  You see.  You are just a phony after all.

Quote:Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.

Ex 31:14

Retard I am not an OT Jew. Only the Jews had the charge to stone other Jews for missing the Sabbath. They did not or were not meant to judge the gentiles.

As A Christian we must reconcile all of God's word not just pick and choose Jewish or Christian only texts.
Mat 12 Jesus Himself tells us how/why it is ok to work on the Sabbath in the first 1/2 of the chapter, refuting the pharisaical interpretation that nothing must be done on the Sabbath. Rather Christ tells sets the example that our love for God Our love for each other can dictate what we do or do not do on the Sabbath.

On top of that Paul takes Jesus' point a step further in romans 14 In the first have he directly speaks about people who consider certain days more holy than other people do. in essence if we live/give God those days then who are any of us to judge which day a man decides to give God?

So in the beginning We have a command from moses to Keep the Sabbath holy. Jesus points out the pharisaical idea (your idea Minnie) of not working is the only at to keep the Sabbath is wrong... Not cherry picked, this is Jesus telling the Pharisees they are wrong on how they honor the Sabbath.

Romans 14 Paul takes the Jesus concept a step further and exclaims that any day all days can be given to God/Kept holy. It's all about the indivisual and where they are at.

Before you try and poop on anything know your query died at the end of your question when I pointed out I was not an OT Jew. The Law of moses ONLY pertained to the OT jew or someone looking to become one. I am neither. That said everything else is why Christians do not have the same demand to keep the Sabbath holy as the Jews did. (Christ pointed out the were keeping the day holy wrong, as he worked healing the sick)

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(March 30, 2017 at 10:40 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(March 30, 2017 at 10:07 am)Drich Wrote: When we look at scripture like Mark 10/divorce we must also look to see if that teacher/chirst said anything else on the subject. as it turns out this event seems to be outlined in mat 19 as well. The record is about the same but with the addition of marital unfaithfulness. or in some translations 'adultery.'

This does not take away anything Jesus said but adds to it. in that being unfaith to one marriage/vows is a legit reason to be divorced and remarry.

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That seems to be a popular narrative, but when ever I ask the person making that claim to provide an example of the bible 'cherry picking' they can't ever seem to find a legit example of it.

Every religion quotes their holy writings and the characters in those holy writings. That is STILL circular reasoning and confirmation bias. You quoted your bible so what? Muslims quote the Koran, Jews quote the Torah and Talmud, and OT, Buddhists quote Buddha, and Hindus quote the Bhagavad Gita and Vedas. So what, get in line take a number.

I ask for specifics and you make the effort from way out in left field to what give me more generalities??? what's wrong with you snow flakes don't you understand that if I am asking for a specific another off the cuff generality is not going to work?

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(March 30, 2017 at 10:41 am)Harry Nevis Wrote:

(March 30, 2017 at 10:07 am)Drich Wrote:

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That seems to be a popular narrative, but when ever I ask the person making that claim to provide an example of the bible 'cherry picking' they can't ever seem to find a legit example of it.

And, of course, you are the arbiter of what is "legit".

A Arbiter...

Quote:Retard I am not an OT Jew. Only the Jews had the charge to stone other Jews for missing the Sabbath. They did not or were not meant to judge the gentiles.

Bullshit.

Quote:King James Bible

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Matty 5:18

Remember, of the two of us you think this happy horseshit is the spoken word of your fucking god.



Keep picking, asshole.

(March 30, 2017 at 11:50 am)vorlon13 Wrote: As for those feeling Jesus doesn't have 'sufficient backup' for His admonition on divorce/remarriage to really be something He was serious about, I note Malachi records God (His Father for our posters and visitors from Rio Linda) stating He HATES divorce. Significantly, that admonition is in the Old Testament.  One might conclude an Eternal and Unchanging God might just have inspired His Holy scriptures to read precisely what He wants on this occasion, at least.

I would advise EXTREME caution for 'sincere' believers who nevertheless feel they need a divorce and/or a subsequent remarriage.  I'd also counsel profound suspicion of any (supposedly) Christian denomination/schism that is any way 'soft' on divorce.  And especially the ones that treat remarriage as a sacrament.

As for a subsequent (LOL, or prior!) proclamation of belief in the death and resurrection of Christ from a divorce whore,  I'd take that with copious skepticism. That is just the sort of thing one would expect to hear from unsaved  disciples of Satan.

No one is trying to trivialize your understanding of sin.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=ERV

Each of us has our own convictions. Most of it though is rooted in a pay to play version of Christianity. Which God can indeed work with. If you are honest about what you believe and know you limites and try to abide by them.

That said just as you can quote you never divorce passages. Know that the same unchanging God also included a provision for divorce With the allowance for remarriage despite How he felt. What's more Jesus Himself taught the passage that delivers this message.

Now understand two thing if you think your interpretation is correct that is the one you will be judge by. How ever also understand there is scripture that teaches the oppsite that must not be discarded but reconciled with what you already know.

That is what this whole thread is about ..cherry picking. or only looking at the verses that favor your idea of God. I point to a passage that should change your verion of God a great deal. like it or not it is in the bible and if we look to serve the God of the bible we must be willing to let God our idea of God and follow the God the bible points to.

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(March 30, 2017 at 12:02 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(March 30, 2017 at 10:41 am)Harry Nevis Wrote: And, of course, you are the arbiter of what is "legit".

Yep, most of our 7 billion humans have a religion and all of them argue over which one is the right one. But lucky us Drich is the hero of all 7 billion of us.

Because I know none of us are right. Well not just me.. there are a lot of people who know that what we understand about God is not what saves us. However seeming those who in their minds had to worship the right version of God seem to now fill the atheist ranks, while people who knew their version of God had to remain fluid as it is impossible to have the right version.. Go on in the faith.. Meaning I might be one of only a few or in your word one of a billion. because you don't even know how broken our understanding of God was.

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(March 30, 2017 at 2:24 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:Retard I am not an OT Jew. Only the Jews had the charge to stone other Jews for missing the Sabbath. They did not or were not meant to judge the gentiles.

Bullshit.

Quote:King James Bible

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Matty 5:18

Remember, of the two of us you think this happy horseshit is the spoken word of your fucking god.



Keep picking, asshole.

Am I a OT Jew?? is that what you are saying? or do you still not understand the OT law (and the bits including stoning) only pertained to OT Jews!!!

(March 30, 2017 at 2:26 pm)Drich Wrote:

(March 30, 2017 at 11:50 am)vorlon13 Wrote: As for those feeling Jesus doesn't have 'sufficient backup' for His admonition on divorce/remarriage to really be something He was serious about, I note Malachi records God (His Father for our posters and visitors from Rio Linda) stating He HATES divorce. Significantly, that admonition is in the Old Testament.  One might conclude an Eternal and Unchanging God might just have inspired His Holy scriptures to read precisely what He wants on this occasion, at least.

I would advise EXTREME caution for 'sincere' believers who nevertheless feel they need a divorce and/or a subsequent remarriage.  I'd also counsel profound suspicion of any (supposedly) Christian denomination/schism that is any way 'soft' on divorce.  And especially the ones that treat remarriage as a sacrament.

As for a subsequent (LOL, or prior!) proclamation of belief in the death and resurrection of Christ from a divorce whore,  I'd take that with copious skepticism. That is just the sort of thing one would expect to hear from unsaved  disciples of Satan.

No one is trying to trivialize your understanding of sin.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...ersion=ERV

Each of us has our own convictions. Most of it though is rooted in a pay to play version of Christianity. Which God can indeed work with. If you are honest about what you believe and know you limites and try to abide by them.

That said just as you can quote you never divorce passages. Know that the same unchanging God also included a provision for divorce With the allowance for remarriage despite How he felt. What's more Jesus Himself taught the passage that delivers this message.

Now understand two thing if you think your interpretation is correct that is the one you will be judge by. How ever also understand there is scripture that teaches the oppsite that must not be discarded but reconciled with what you already know.

That is what this whole thread is about ..cherry picking. or only looking at the verses that favor your idea of God. I point to a passage that should change your verion of God a great deal. like it or not it is in the bible and if we look to serve the God of the bible we must be willing to let God our idea of God and follow the God the bible points to.

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(March 30, 2017 at 12:02 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Yep, most of our 7 billion humans have a religion and all of them argue over which one is the right one. But lucky us Drich is the hero of all 7 billion of us.

Because I know none of us are right. Well not just me.. there are a lot of people who know that what we understand about God is not what saves us. However seeming those who in their minds had to worship the right version of God seem to now fill the atheist ranks, while people who knew their version of God had to remain fluid as it is impossible to have the right version.. Go on in the faith.. Meaning I might be one of only a few or in your word one of a billion. because you don't even know how broken our understanding of God was.

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(March 30, 2017 at 2:24 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Bullshit.



Remember, of the two of us you think this happy horseshit is the spoken word of your fucking god.



Keep picking, asshole.

Am I a OT Jew?? is that what you are saying? or do you still not understand the OT law (and the bits including stoning) only pertained to OT Jews!!!

There is no law in the OT or NT, just a bunch of barked orders. Dictators like Hitler and Stalin and Kim Jong Un have laws too, they all had traffic lights and prisons too. 


Your God character barks orders, that is not law, that is dictation. In the real civil west WE consent to our laws and we can change our laws and we can hold our politicians, judges, law enforcement to account and even our President. Your God character as written does not need our permission via vote to govern us. We cannot have your God Character impeached or charged with crimes. That is the behavior of a king, a dictator, not an elected official who needs our permission to write laws for us.

(March 30, 2017 at 12:08 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:That seems to be a popular narrative, but when ever I ask the person making that claim to provide an example of the bible 'cherry picking' they can't ever seem to find a legit example of it.

How many WalMart workers have you stoned to death for working on the sabbath, Dripshit.  You see.  You are just a phony after all.

Quote:Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.

Ex 31:14

The only way to avoid the Sabbath stoning one is to accept Apostle Paul's retconning of Jesus.  Funny though, how the Pauline-ites left the incriminating passage in their own approved bible.  Seems like, then as now (Joseph Smith, tee hee) the paperwork always trips up the apostates.

I forget, was it Jesus or Paul that put in the bit about swilling poison and molesting deadly serpents ??    Well, no matter, it's still a handy test for us to wield against scripture cherry pickers of any stripe.

. . . and that divorce thing, I was brought up with it. I'm not making up the Princess Margaret/Group Captain Townsend thing. Many/most folks in my parents Midwestern orbit lived and died with Christian marriage as indissoluble. My family members applied ENORMOUS pressure on a cousin of mine to remarry the vicious kunt he divorced, and he did. I wasn't allowed to play/visit/invite over some neighbor kids as their mom was divorced and remarried.

-and then something happened-

That the admonition/stricture is now widely rebuked/ignored/repudiated/reviled/retconned doesn't reflect poorly on folks that believed it in the generation ahead of mine, it reflects poorly on the liberal backsliding scripture cherry pickers their Eternal and Unchanging God is stuck with today.

(March 30, 2017 at 2:26 pm)Drich Wrote: Am I a OT Jew?? is that what you are saying? or do you still not understand the OT law (and the bits including stoning) only pertained to OT Jews!!!

Then tear the OT out of your book.

(March 30, 2017 at 4:14 pm)Stimbo Wrote:

(March 30, 2017 at 2:26 pm)Drich Wrote: Am I a OT Jew?? is that what you are saying? or do you still not understand the OT law (and the bits including stoning) only pertained to OT Jews!!!

Then tear the OT out of your book.

Christians wont because it would screw up their advertising. Just like Muslims love to quote Jesus as a prophet, but claim to be a totally original religion.

Funny how neither Christians or Jews are ever willing to admit that the head Character Yahweh was a lesser god under the Canaanites before the splinter sect Hebrews stole the name and elevated Yahweh to a monotheistic God in replace of the Canaanite polytheistic head God El as to which Yahweh was merely an underling family member under the rule of El, the original head God of the Canaanites.

(March 30, 2017 at 4:14 pm)Stimbo Wrote:

(March 30, 2017 at 2:26 pm)Drich Wrote: Am I a OT Jew?? is that what you are saying? or do you still not understand the OT law (and the bits including stoning) only pertained to OT Jews!!!

Then tear the OT out of your book.

And leave off bothering the gays.  You're still picking.