You know, one of the prerequisites of being able to prove something is first to be able to make grammatical sense.

You're trying to run when you haven't learned to walk.

(March 31, 2017 at 8:49 am)MysticKnight Wrote:

(March 30, 2017 at 10:52 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Yeh so like I said, you're basically doing the same as taking the word "good" and saying that because this word that humans came up with exists therefore something perfectly godlike and objectively good must exist.

It's just a word, a tool for humans to describe things when talking.  We as humans with subjective opinions came up with the word.  A word doesn't prove anything exists or predict anything will happen for certain.

At some point in time someone thought of these words JUST to describe a subjective opinion on something.  Someone might think a certain minumum wage is fair another person might think that wage is not justified. 

We use these words to describe these opinions.

We don't use these words to discover invisable beings who exist outside the universe

If you believe in justice, you have to believe in the potential of applying justice as humans to one another. We haven't see that justice happen, but we all believe the potential of that is there and believe we ought to work for it.

Do you disagree with this?

I don't know for certain that fair treatment and justice has never been seen.
I don't know that everyone believes there's a potential for justice.
Everyone's idea of perfect justice is different, I don't know that everyone should definitely word towards justice, it might contradict my idea of justice, and in which case from my subjective perspective I'd have to say that they shouldn't try to aim to achieve justice.
Say for example people who believe stoning to death as justice for an adulterer.

(March 31, 2017 at 11:24 am)paulpablo Wrote: Say for example people who believe stoning to death as justice for an adulterer.

/thread

MK has gone full Little Rik

You never go full little Rik.

I would use the meme but ffs things are hard to do on mobile.

Perhaps he means a muslim judge caught fiddling his expenses - Justice Thumbs.

(March 31, 2017 at 5:44 am)Cyberman Wrote: Mystic... when one has to try as hard as you are doing to prove something that you insist ought to be trivially obvious, it's reasonable to speculate on precisely whom you are trying to convince - us? Or you?

Oh my good Doctor! The cybermen have subborned Stimbo! What's next, Tiberius was a Dalek all along?!?!?!