(April 18, 2017 at 3:12 pm)It_Was_me Wrote: I am just sitting here, waiting and waiting for this. I have decided to hunker back into my shell. I really quit following political groups on Facebook and have just removed myself from that drama. However, I am just looking forward to this happening. Because we all know that it is coming.

Waiting is not an option, Trump and the GOP create all sorts of distractions every day. I wouldn't wait, the more everyone speaks out to their local and national elected officials and all social media local and national, and we do that every day we can limit the damage and reverse it. I want to push that fucker every day so he ends up, sooner rather than later jumps a shark nobody can ignore. 

I am under no illusions that even if he steps down he'll spend a day in jail. But he is a narcissist and doesn't like being picked on. Do that enough and just like a bully, they will end up doing or saying something that will hang themselves.

(April 22, 2017 at 3:02 am)dyresand Wrote: if you look at it were in a new golden age of deregulation.
and if you read your history books you learn that with any golden age of deregulation
it's only fake growth. in the end this means the death of the economy and since our economy
is mainly based on oil that means doom for the oil sector. Which is good for the world bad for any oil based economy
because of all of this deregulation means doom for the global economy. Because the same banks are doing the same
insider trading again since they don't have regulations tying them down the economy will crash yet again by same people
who did it the first time.

It's a fair point that the Utopian free marketers always avoid.
It's true that over regulation can cause a drag on the economy but unregulated markets boom and bust and that is an empirical fact. The 19th century was almost tax free and regulation free and was plagued by boom and bust crashes because that is the natural tendency of unregulated capitalism. It's too bad that so many have fallen for the false notion of "magic of the markets". It's a human made system and it works quite well with oversight but there's not an ounce of magic anywhere to be found.

Why would you want that though? That would be bad for the country.

I don't like Trump either. But I hope, for the sake of the country and everyone living in it, that he turns out being a president who is successful at making things better for all of us.

(April 23, 2017 at 12:58 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Why would you want that though? That would be bad for the country.

I don't like Trump either. But I hope, for the sake of the country and everyone living in it, that he turns out being a president who is successful at making things better for all of us.

There is no chance of that, he is actively destroying environmental policy so at the very least the US will more polluted.

His economic plan is basically let the business men have it all their way and screw the little guy.

He plans to shut down planned parent hood.

And then of course he's annoying every belligerent hostile power in a bid to distract from his many many wrong doings.

As well as potentially being in the pocket of a foreign state and lying about everything.

I haven't scratched the surface of the reasons he shouldn't be president.

Its like putting Garry Glitter in charge of a nursery.

I don't want the Trump administration to crash and burn. I would readily accept Trump if he actually started to act like a decent human being for once, since that would be the best situation for everyone. That isn't likely to happen, though, so I'm not going to hold my breath. I absolutely expect this to be a disaster. It already seems to be well on its way.

I can't hardly wait. With the down fall, we'll finally get the chance to set up the oligarchy that I've been prepping for all these years.

(April 23, 2017 at 12:45 pm)Crunchy Wrote:

(April 22, 2017 at 3:02 am)dyresand Wrote: if you look at it were in a new golden age of deregulation.
and if you read your history books you learn that with any golden age of deregulation
it's only fake growth. in the end this means the death of the economy and since our economy
is mainly based on oil that means doom for the oil sector. Which is good for the world bad for any oil based economy
because of all of this deregulation means doom for the global economy. Because the same banks are doing the same
insider trading again since they don't have regulations tying them down the economy will crash yet again by same people
who did it the first time.

It's a fair point that the Utopian free marketers always avoid.
It's true that over regulation can cause a drag on the economy but unregulated markets boom and bust and that is an empirical fact. The 19th century was almost tax free and regulation free and was plagued by boom and bust crashes because that is the natural tendency of unregulated capitalism. It's too bad that so many have fallen for the false notion of "magic of the markets". It's a human made system and it works quite well with oversight but there's not an ounce of magic anywhere to be found.

You know what's funny a video game a online video game does capitalism better than we do in reality. 
Eve online check it out because yeah that is a game with a free market with hardly to no regulations at all but we
cannot achieve that at all.

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(April 23, 2017 at 2:08 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: I can't hardly wait. With the down fall, we'll finally get the chance to set up the oligarchy that I've been prepping for all these years.

But a oligarch can't function with a destroyed currency because well... they have to pay people something that is worth something 
to beat up all those angry rioters with molotov cocktails
Even then said people would turn against the people paying them. a oligarchy in reality would fall so fast because of the people 
because of a large scale military coup against those who they are wanting to control.

(April 23, 2017 at 8:57 pm)dyresand Wrote:

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(April 23, 2017 at 2:08 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: I can't hardly wait. With the down fall, we'll finally get the chance to set up the oligarchy that I've been prepping for all these years.

But a oligarch can't function with a destroyed currency because well... they have to pay people something that is worth something 
to beat up all those angry rioters with molotov cocktails
Even then said people would turn against the people paying them. a oligarchy in reality would fall so fast because of the people 
because of a large scale military coup against those who they are wanting to control.

Oligarchy and military are not mutually exclusive. 

I'll be waiting patiently in my bunker. With my alchemy set.