(May 14, 2017 at 12:09 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(May 14, 2017 at 11:27 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote: ABBA 15 hours a day? Can't I just take the Hemlock and join Socrates in conversation?

Sorry, but you'll have to face your Waterloo.

I feel like I win when I lose. 

(May 14, 2017 at 12:44 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(May 14, 2017 at 12:09 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Sorry, but you'll have to face your Waterloo.

I feel like I win when I lose. 

And that confuses the fuck out the people who have taken you prisoner. I say to Elba with that shit!

(May 14, 2017 at 12:59 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(May 14, 2017 at 12:44 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I feel like I win when I lose. 

And that confuses the fuck out the people who have taken you prisoner. I say to Elba with that shit!

Reminds me of the Bugs Bunny cartoon, "You wouldn't hit a guy with glasses"

My version, in this thread, "You wouldn't shoot an ABBA fan?"

(May 14, 2017 at 12:04 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I might have forgiven you if you said you strangled ducklings.

I only molest them with apricots

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(May 14, 2017 at 12:44 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(May 14, 2017 at 12:09 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Sorry, but you'll have to face your Waterloo.

I feel like I win when I lose. 

Whether you feel like you win or not... if you lose... do I win?

If so I'm happy because if ABBA has taught me one thing it's that The Winner Takes It All

(May 14, 2017 at 1:13 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote:

(May 14, 2017 at 12:04 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I might have forgiven you if you said you strangled ducklings.

I only molest them with apricots

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(May 14, 2017 at 12:44 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I feel like I win when I lose. 

Whether you feel like you win or not... if you lose... do I win?

If so I'm happy because if ABBA has taught me one thing it's that The Winner Takes It All

My bad jokes have to fall
Beside the victory
THAT'S MY DESTINY!

I was buying arms
Thinking they belonged there
I figured it made sense
Playing army behind my fence 

I apologize
If it makes you feel sad
Seeing me so tense 
No self loading weapons

THE NRA TAKES IT ALL
People in a theater fall
Forget the mentally ill
They have the right to kill

THE GUNNER SHOOTS THEM ALL

ABBA suck so hard. Damn poppy bitches.

(May 13, 2017 at 2:20 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(May 12, 2017 at 9:24 pm)Nanny Wrote: Brian, I'm surprised by your comment. 

There's a Philip K. Dick story called Minority Report (made into a bad movie) that posits a society where "precrime" is a punishable offense. A means is devised to determine probability of any individual committing a crime. The surveillance state takes these probabilities and acts on them to arrest and punish people for potentially committing crimes. It's a dystopian story about a police state.

I'm not suggesting that you meant this, but when you say that you have a family history of mental illness, and suggest that should disqualify you from exercising your rights, you're making a very bold statement. It presumes that we are not free to make our own choices and to act in accordance with those choices. You're saying that because you could snap at some point that you should forfeit a right guaranteed you by the Constitution. 

This isn't about just 2A, then. If your argument is real, you could make the same statements about anything. Your very lot in life could be decided based on heritable traits and tendencies. That sounds like genetic stratification, or eugenics. That is terrifying as history proves. 

I appreciate that you enjoy debate and I've been impressed with your statements in other threads. I'm hoping you'll reconsider this aspect of your approach.

Edit -

If your self-assessment is accurate, then it is good of you to acknowledge that the responsibility of gun ownership is not for you. Just because you've decided that you are unsuitable to own guns doesn't mean that no one is. With the millions of guns in this country - the vast majority of which will never do harm to any person (statistics prove this) - it truly is the exception when some slob does something horrible with a gun to themselves or others. There are 300+ million people in the USA. A fraction of those own guns. A very small fraction of those use guns to harm others other than in self-defense. Applying your individual situation to the vast majority of law-abiding citizens is wrong.

It's like climate-change deniers who confuse daily weather with long term climate. Yes, the weather changes day-to-day. The long view describes the climate. Climate deniers will say, "global warming, eh? how come I got a foot of snow TODAY?"

False dichotomy again. Incorrect understanding of terms.

Holy crap, nobody is suggesting Orwell's 1984 or even "Minority Report"........

Prevention is not the same as presumption of guilt. You have to go to medical school to get a degree. You are NOT presuming the person making the attempt to get the degree is evil, you are simply insuring they can handle the job.

"Legal at time of buy" does not insure that the person walking into your gun shop does not have any problems at time of buy. Vetting to insure the wrong people don't get firearms is NOT taking away anyone's rights. 

If you are a business owner, you don't simply hire anyone, you make the attempt to look at their record of work history and get references. Nobody would want an airline to hire someone for the position of pilot who never took flying lessons.

Apologies. I misunderstood your post.

The book of armaments?

No, sorry, that's in the bible.

We can thank Wild West ignorance that everyone today thinks s/he MUST own a gun.

That is where the gun craze began.

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Of course, it does not help that entertainment sources, via television and movies, over-sensationalizes guns.

Anyone who supports full access to guns is an idiot.

Not just anyone is capable of owning a gun, yet guns are entirely too easy to obtain. Guns are especially too easily obtained by those who use them to kill others through premeditation.

Any gun owner who does not support safer gun laws is a fucking idiot.

Any gun owner who thinks safer gun laws means the government is taking one's guns away has serious issues with reality.

Anyone who has a serious issue with reality is considered one who should not own a gun.

(May 14, 2017 at 1:13 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote:

(May 14, 2017 at 12:04 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I might have forgiven you if you said you strangled ducklings.

I only molest them with apricots

You're known for choking the chicken.