(June 14, 2017 at 10:53 pm)Sterben Wrote:

(June 14, 2017 at 9:05 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Dude.  Who fucking cares?  Why does anyone need to cover her breast at all, baby feeding or otherwise?  Look at all the disgusting shit in the world, and tell me that a few inches of boob are such a horrifying eye-sore that ANY discretion at all should be required.  This is the state of the USA right now:

     What people wear in public is another discussion, I was only referring to public breast feeding. If were talking about what grown adults and teens wear in public. Americans acceptance of fashion is a topic I really don't understand. Since we no longer have a concept of shame, we have reached this point. You can be liberal in many senses, but there is a point to where we have to say enough is enough. 

Let me explain my modesty while breastfeeding. I cared at first, and wore my hooter hider for a while. As a womans' body creates milk her metabolism increases, and it gets really hot with a bigger baby sucking down. Also, To have good airflow to their little nose oxygen helps a lot! Most woman would rather breastfeed in a comfortable private place with boobs out and free, but unfortunately  thats not always avail so people need to get over seeing tits. Steuben, you can easily avert your eyes and allow a woman to be a good mom.

(June 15, 2017 at 12:40 am)JamieB Wrote:

(June 14, 2017 at 10:53 pm)Sterben Wrote:      What people wear in public is another discussion, I was only referring to public breast feeding. If were talking about what grown adults and teens wear in public. Americans acceptance of fashion is a topic I really don't understand. Since we no longer have a concept of shame, we have reached this point. You can be liberal in many senses, but there is a point to where we have to say enough is enough. 

Let me explain my modesty while breastfeeding. I cared at first, and wore my hooter hider for a while. As a womans' body creates milk her metabolism increases, and it gets really hot with a bigger baby sucking down. Also, To have good airflow to their little nose oxygen helps a lot! Most woman would rather breastfeed in a comfortable private place with boobs out and free, but unfortunately  thats not always avail so people need to get over seeing tits. Steuben, you can easily avert your eyes and allow a woman to be a good mom.

     I can, but a lot people can't divert their eyes. So, to avoid some teenage or young adult men staring at your breasts. I was just saying for your own sake's, cover up a bit if you have to breast feed in a public place.

(June 15, 2017 at 12:57 am)Sterben Wrote:      I can, but a lot people can't divert their eyes. So, to avoid some teenage or young adult men staring at your breasts. I was just saying for your own sake's, cover up a bit if you have to breast feed in a public place.

I think this is an insidious view, a real wolf in sheep's clothing. Let me pick it apart:

"I can, but a lot of people can't divert their eyes."
1) Yeah, they can.
2) They shouldn't have to, because there's nothing wrong with breasts, or with seeing them.

"I was just saying for your own sake"
- Yeah, just like "good" white people recommended that slaves not get uppity. . . you know, just saying, for their own sake. How about saying you think anyone with a problem with nature should stfu and leave. . . "for their own sake."

Sterben Wrote:I can, but a lot people can't divert their eyes. So, to avoid some teenage or young adult men staring at your breasts. I was just saying for your own sake's, cover up a bit if you have to breast feed in a public place.

It's not even an "issue" really.
1. Women are just as embarrassed to breastfeed without any cover in public.
2. We don't really have to ask them to cover up they'll do it themselves, unless they're clueless, in that case some other woman will tell em.
3. Mothers usually carry a little bottle of milk with them with the little nibble on it for emergencies, I don't know about specifics, maybe someone can help?
4. If it's a really huge emergency most women I know would just find a private ladies place to do it. I've never seen a woman just whip a tit out and feed the kid in public, I can't imagine how embarrassing, awkward and weird it will be for her and those around her

bennyboy Wrote:They shouldn't have to, because there's nothing wrong with breasts, or with seeing them.

but you can't argue it's not a sexualized part of a woman's body..
also, where did the whole slave thing come from? that went from 0 - 60 real fast LOL

(June 14, 2017 at 9:18 pm)Losty Wrote: It should be illegal to breastfeed in public. Lol wtf

Either legalize all kinds of nudity in public or deny all kinds of nudity. It's that simple.

It's not nudity you dolt. It's feeding a child the way nature intended.

(June 15, 2017 at 6:18 am)pool the matey Wrote: but you can't argue it's not a sexualized part of a woman's body..
also, where did the whole slave thing come from? that went from 0 - 60 real fast LOL

Every part of a woman's body is sexualized if you choose to. Breasts are secondary sexual characteristics, so okay. But so what? Who said anything to do with reproduction is intrinsically inappropriate? Women have big hips, too; should we require them to wear boxes? As far as I'm concerned, the only reason people shouldn't walk around naked 100% of the time is for their comfort and due to serious hygiene issues from fluid cross-contamination.

As for the "slave thing," it's a crystal clear example of the dis-ingenuity of people claiming the imposition of their own wants on someone else is for the other's best interest. "I'm not racist but. . ."

Here we have a crystal case of the same category of bullshit from Sterben: "Of course, I'M fine with breast feeding, I'm just worried about the women who will have to have perverts (read: like me) staring at their breasts."

No. Fucking no. The solution to double standards isn't to condescendingly guide women through the minefield of social convention. It's to recognize that the convention is bullshit, rooted in the barbarism of Victorian English and a fairy-tale religion, and to refuse to accept it. If perverts won't stop staring at a mother's breasts, then discipline the perverts, and leave the baby to eat its lunch in peace.

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(June 15, 2017 at 6:36 am)Atheist_BG Wrote:

(June 14, 2017 at 9:18 pm)Losty Wrote: It should be illegal to breastfeed in public. Lol wtf

Either legalize all kinds of nudity in public or deny all kinds of nudity. It's that simple.

I've seen double-D's on men.  If breasts and nipples need to be covered, then make a law requiring them to be covered.  Selectively deciding that men can walk around in nothing but a speedo, but a woman has to wear a fucking burka, is not a distinction we need to enforce..

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I propose that all men should be required to wear neck scarves, since Adam's apples are a secondary sexual characteristic. Those filthy men, just walking around in public with their bulging throats on display like that. . . how can anybody get any fucking work done?

(June 15, 2017 at 8:11 am)bennyboy Wrote: I've seen double-D's on men.  If breasts and nipples need to be covered, then make a law requiring them to be covered.  Selectively deciding that men can walk around in nothing but a speedo, but a woman has to wear a fucking burka, is not a distinction we need to enforce..

Yes. But its not an issue were I come from. Breastfeeding is encouraged, albeit women that can't are somewhat looked down. That is what those formulae are for.

Around portugal boobies are naturally good stuff. There is nothing in the law that women cant topless sunbathe on tje beach. Seen plenty. What is the problem?

We should start making men bikinis lel. We have nipples too

bennyboy Wrote:As far as I'm concerned, the only reason people shouldn't walk around naked 100% of the time is for their comfort and due to serious hygiene issues from fluid cross-contamination.

I mean, if that's your position then I can understand your argument from your POV, but that is a minority position. Most people don't want to walk around completely naked, you know? But yeah, I understand your point. Men don't have to cover up their nipples but it's just because men's chest isn't sexualized like women's breasts. It is a double standard but it's not a societal double standard, it's a sexual "double standard", right? I mean, we can't force people to be sexually aroused by men's nipples, not that I'm against it, flashing some nippy and getting lucky would be pretty easy and cool

The double standard isn't exclusive to being sexual. It also is societal. The two are linked:
Society says women have to cover up their breasts because their breasts have continuously been viewed as an object of sexuality, rather than as a food source for infants. And why is that? Because breasts turn people on. And why could that be? Because magazines like Penthouse and Playboy display them as such. And then we have the highly anticipatory Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition that comes out every year, glorifying the female body in scantily clad clothing marketed as "swimwear".