Read the damn book and weep for the hundreds of chances to secure victory that slipped thru fucking Hillary's fingers. And how many of those occurrences were accompanied by folks telling her she was fucking up. (sound familiar?)

And all the fuck ups in her staff terrified to give her honest advice lest they be 'fired in place' (a bizarre practice of terminating folks in the campaign without making any waves that might show the public things were derailing in Clintonworld big time) and then we have staffers clawing their way to the top of her favorites list (sound familiar?) consequences to the campaign be damned, all jockeying to knock everyone else out her favor (sound familiar?) and consequences be damned. And then the book keeps circling back to Hillary failing to see her faults (sound familiar?) and failing at accepting some corrective suggestions (sound familiar?). And then she draws the wrong conclusions about failing in 2008 and keeps fucking up and fucking up (sound familiar?).

It's fucking eerie reading the damn book right now, I'm not sure the Hillary time line would be too different in consideration of results as compared to this time line. The drama quotient would be different, but chaotic leadership can manifest in many different varieties of shit storms, and it's pretty clear, still just over halfway thru the fucking book, President Hillary wasn't going to be any better than candidate Hillary.

Better to let the 'pubs fail catastrophically with their "Hillary" than for the dems to have failed with their own.

Go read the book.

Quote: It's fucking eerie reading the damn book right now

Yeah...hindsight is always 20/20 as someone once said.

100 million people did not vote because, you know, there was no difference between the candidates.

Well now, fuck them all.

(July 28, 2017 at 6:13 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote: It's fucking eerie reading the damn book right now

Yeah...hindsight is always 20/20 as someone once said.

100 million people did not vote because, you know, there was no difference between the candidates.

Well now, fuck them all.

That amount not voting has more to do with the fact that people work, and also even with early voting, many of the polling places are gerrymandered and literally made small in rival districts to discourage voting.

Australia I do believe mandates voting. Might be time to do that and on top make election day a national holiday.

Gerrymandering does not impact presidential or statewide races.

I sure agree with making voting day a national holiday, paid time off ... only if you can display the stub of your ballot to HR.

(July 28, 2017 at 6:38 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Gerrymandering does not impact presidential or statewide races.

Sure if you are looking top down. But bottom up yes it does. Local elections lead to those who move up the political ladder to the state and then the federal. Then the majority party in the state controls the map making. 

That is why because of 36 years of GOP gerrymandering they control a majority of state congresses and governorships. 

Because people think top down instead of bottom up. Or should I say too many democratic voters dont think about it and the GOP does. That is how they have grown to copy and paste local election laws all over the nation.

If gerrymandering didn't matter then why did a district judge tell NC they were violating voters rights with the way they were making the maps? Because the GOP knows how it works, bottom to top.