A being of infinite power and wisdom apparently can't come up with any better way for young Canaanite girls to live than as forced wives of their families murderers.
Couldn't he use his infinite power to create a sanctuary somewhere where they could live healthy lives? Why can't God come up with something better than massacring the Canaanites? Couldn't he have changed things so nobody inhabited Israel while they were in Egypt?

I guess god hated them because they worshiped another god which seems rather trivial for an omnipotent being.

(July 27, 2017 at 9:36 am)Inkfeather132 Wrote:

(July 27, 2017 at 1:55 am)Godscreated Wrote:  Your opinion and that's all it is.

GC

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 I gave you an argument from scripture that you totally ignored, if you are going to argue against God and His word you will need to do it from the scriptures since there is no other place to do it from.

GC

I already showed you how that "argument" isn't logical. Paul judges all women based on Eve's behavior, which is not how the world works. I don't judge all men based on Noah, or all black people based on Martin Luther King, Jr. It's stupid because there is diversity in large groups. Not all women would have eaten the fruit, not all men would have just done what their wife told them without questioning. Paul's argument was incorrect and you are the one ignoring that.

 I've ignored nothing, Paul was relating to women through God's judgement and that's why he made the statement he did. Your view is a secular view on this subject and it has no place in the teaching of spiritual matters. Diversity has nothing to do with understanding God's word because ultimately one can't understand the truths without the guidance of the Holy Spirit. There were not a bunch of women nor men at that particular time so your thinking is irrelevant, and yes everyone would have fallen to that temptation. Why, because those two knew God  through experiencing His presence, same goes for Moses and they failed. 

GC

(July 28, 2017 at 1:18 am)Godscreated Wrote:

(July 27, 2017 at 9:36 am)Inkfeather132 Wrote: I already showed you how that "argument" isn't logical. Paul judges all women based on Eve's behavior, which is not how the world works. I don't judge all men based on Noah, or all black people based on Martin Luther King, Jr. It's stupid because there is diversity in large groups. Not all women would have eaten the fruit, not all men would have just done what their wife told them without questioning. Paul's argument was incorrect and you are the one ignoring that.

 I've ignored nothing, Paul was relating to women through God's judgement and that's why he made the statement he did. Your view is a secular view on this subject and it has no place in the teaching of spiritual matters. Diversity has nothing to do with understanding God's word because ultimately one can't understand the truths without the guidance of the Holy Spirit. There were not a bunch of women nor men at that particular time so your thinking is irrelevant, and yes everyone would have fallen to that temptation. Why, because those two knew God  through experiencing His presence, same goes for Moses and they failed. 

GC

Thank you for proving once and for all that faith and reason are absolutely irrevocably irreconcilable. You will never say or do anything useful again.

(July 28, 2017 at 1:18 am)Godscreated Wrote:

(July 27, 2017 at 9:36 am)Inkfeather132 Wrote: I already showed you how that "argument" isn't logical. Paul judges all women based on Eve's behavior, which is not how the world works. I don't judge all men based on Noah, or all black people based on Martin Luther King, Jr. It's stupid because there is diversity in large groups. Not all women would have eaten the fruit, not all men would have just done what their wife told them without questioning. Paul's argument was incorrect and you are the one ignoring that.

 I've ignored nothing, Paul was relating to women through God's judgement and that's why he made the statement he did. Your view is a secular view on this subject and it has no place in the teaching of spiritual matters. Diversity has nothing to do with understanding God's word because ultimately one can't understand the truths without the guidance of the Holy Spirit. There were not a bunch of women nor men at that particular time so your thinking is irrelevant, and yes everyone would have fallen to that temptation. Why, because those two knew God  through experiencing His presence, same goes for Moses and they failed. 

GC

So basically, it's not Paul judging all women based on the actions of one, it's god doing that? How is that any better? It's still a faulty argument, show me how it's not.

(July 28, 2017 at 9:14 am)Inkfeather132 Wrote:

(July 28, 2017 at 1:18 am)Godscreated Wrote:  I've ignored nothing, Paul was relating to women through God's judgement and that's why he made the statement he did. Your view is a secular view on this subject and it has no place in the teaching of spiritual matters. Diversity has nothing to do with understanding God's word because ultimately one can't understand the truths without the guidance of the Holy Spirit. There were not a bunch of women nor men at that particular time so your thinking is irrelevant, and yes everyone would have fallen to that temptation. Why, because those two knew God  through experiencing His presence, same goes for Moses and they failed. 

GC

So basically, it's not Paul judging all women based on the actions of one, it's god doing that? How is that any better? It's still a faulty argument, show me how it's not.

 This is God's creation, His plan of salvation and His will, it's that simple.

GC

(July 27, 2017 at 8:33 pm)Industrial Lad Wrote: A being of infinite power and wisdom apparently can't come up with any better way for young Canaanite girls to live than as forced wives of their families murderers.
Couldn't he use his infinite power to create a sanctuary somewhere where they could live healthy lives? Why can't God come up with something better than massacring the Canaanites? Couldn't he have changed things so nobody inhabited Israel while they were in Egypt?

I guess god hated them because they worshiped another god which seems rather trivial for an omnipotent being.

He does not have the power to help. He only has the power to harm. That's why he's most well known for killing people, or sending plagues, or whatever. Jesus apparently had healing powers, though I'm not clear on where he got them.

(July 27, 2017 at 8:33 pm)Industrial Lad Wrote: A being of infinite power and wisdom apparently can't come up with any better way for young Canaanite girls to live than as forced wives of their families murderers.
Couldn't he use his infinite power to create a sanctuary somewhere where they could live healthy lives? Why can't God come up with something better than massacring the Canaanites? Couldn't he have changed things so nobody inhabited Israel while they were in Egypt?

I guess god hated them because they worshiped another god which seems rather trivial for an omnipotent being.

He does not have the power to help. He only has the power to harm. That's why he's most well known for killing people, or sending plagues, or whatever. Jesus apparently had healing powers, though I'm not clear on where he got them.
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Jesus could apparently heal at no cost to himself. I compare it to if I'm walking and I see someone stuck in a pit. It would be immoral not to take out my cellphone and call for help, which costs me nothing.

If Jesus did heal, why would he deserve thanks? It costs him nothing.

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Yeah. I'm sure the individuals felt grateful, but I don't see much reason for the whole world to worship him over anyone else that did great works. especially since apparently he said some crazy stuff too, and did some things that were quite unenlightened.

(July 28, 2017 at 8:21 pm)Godscreated Wrote:

(July 28, 2017 at 9:14 am)Inkfeather132 Wrote: So basically, it's not Paul judging all women based on the actions of one, it's god doing that? How is that any better? It's still a faulty argument, show me how it's not.

 This is God's creation, His plan of salvation and His will, it's that simple.

GC

Might makes right, I guess.

(July 28, 2017 at 8:21 pm)Godscreated Wrote: This is God's creation, His plan of salvation and His will, it's that simple.

So much for that "free will" shit.