Sigh at no point did I say it's not possible for young men to have ED. I  meant considering the sheer cost and or number of pills prescribed I have a hard time accepting that's all about treating ED . Kam made a similar point. So your accusation does not hold. Let alone is even close to comparing it to gender treatments which is a solution to a medically recognized state I might add.

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(August 2, 2017 at 10:52 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote:

(August 2, 2017 at 10:41 am)Shell B Wrote: So, you're no better than the people who say transexuality is a mental disorder or a way to get attention. You don't "buy" that young men can't get it up? Luckily, doctors do. Yes, some of them prescribe it to people who use it recreationally. That does not mean there are young men out there who don't need it.

Yeesh, that's like saying "I don't buy that men in their fighting prime can get panic attacks."  As if one has to do with the other or has anything to do with physical strength/ability.

Never said anything remotely similar to that so no .

(August 2, 2017 at 11:53 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Sigh at no point did I say it's not possible for young men to have ED.

Except that you said exactly that or at least that you didn't "buy it." So it's possible, but you don't believe it?

Tizheruk Wrote:I don't buy the idea that men in there fighting prime can't get it up .

Quote:I  meant considering the sheer cost and or number of pills prescribed I have a hard time accepting that's all about treating ED . Kam made a similar point. So your accusation does not hold. Let alone is even close to comparing it to gender treatments which is a solution to a medically recognized state I might add.

I never said it was all about treating ED. You might want to re-check my original statement, which merely pointed out that ED drugs are not purely recreational. Furthermore, and for the second time, ED is a "medically recognized state," so by your own argument, it is as legitimate as transexuality, which I wouldn't argue.

You seem to think I'm arguing that being trans is not a medical state. I'm not making that argument at all. Again, I only stated that ED drugs are not purely recreational. Anything you argue outside of that statement is a waste of time.

(August 2, 2017 at 12:00 pm)Shell B Wrote:

(August 2, 2017 at 11:53 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Sigh at no point did I say it's not possible for young men to have ED.

Except that you said exactly that or at least that you didn't "buy it." So it's possible, but you don't believe it?

Tizheruk Wrote:I don't buy the idea that men in there fighting prime can't get it up .

Quote:I  meant considering the sheer cost and or number of pills prescribed I have a hard time accepting that's all about treating ED . Kam made a similar point. So your accusation does not hold. Let alone is even close to comparing it to gender treatments which is a solution to a medically recognized state I might add.

I never said it was all about treating ED. You might want to re-check my original statement, which merely pointed out that ED drugs are not purely recreational. Furthermore, and for the second time, ED is a "medically recognized state," so by your own argument, it is as legitimate as transexuality, which I wouldn't argue.

You seem to think I'm arguing that being trans is not a medical state. I'm not making that argument at all. Again, I only stated that ED drugs are not purely recreational. Anything you argue outside of that statement is a waste of time.

I already elaborated this in my last post .Thou I admit the wording does not communicate it well in my original post. I should have said that I don't buy that that many young healthy men are suffering from ED as opposed to recreation . That's the point I dispute .

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(August 2, 2017 at 12:29 pm)Tizheruk Wrote:

(August 2, 2017 at 12:00 pm)Shell B Wrote: Except that you said exactly that or at least that you didn't "buy it." So it's possible, but you don't believe it?




I never said it was all about treating ED. You might want to re-check my original statement, which merely pointed out that ED drugs are not purely recreational. Furthermore, and for the second time, ED is a "medically recognized state," so by your own argument, it is as legitimate as transexuality, which I wouldn't argue.

You seem to think I'm arguing that being trans is not a medical state. I'm not making that argument at all. Again, I only stated that ED drugs are not purely recreational. Anything you argue outside of that statement is a waste of time.

I already elaborated this in my last post .Thou I admit the wording does not communicate it well in my original post. I should have said that I don't buy that that many young healthy men are suffering from ED as opposed to recreation . That's the point I dispute .

Or as Kam put it

Quote:Some of them can't, I'm sure.  That's just not what's driving viagra sales overall, or viagra in the service.  It's for fun, and we don't hear alot of bitching..or any bitching, about it. If some groundpounder wants to maintain a rock hard one for a few hours it;s the least we can do for him, it seems. I say the same is true, and imo much more so, of a groundpounder that's been living in a body they hate.

Fair enough. We're in agreement that not everyone uses Viagra for ED treatment, but there are young men who actually need it. That was my point. Carry on.

(July 26, 2017 at 3:52 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(July 26, 2017 at 3:47 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: No there clearly is Anti trans intent in this proclamation  . And no one brought up political correctness so I don't know why you even brought it up. Not everything pro trans is about political correctness .

Ok then, good. All I'm saying is PC shouldn't be a factor. I said that as a general statement, I didn't accuse anyone in particular of it.

Yes we know what you're saying. Your right to be a bigot is more imprtant than allowing transgendered citizens any rights.

Can we hurry forward to the joke please about soldiers needing stonking erections on the battlefield with frickin laser beams on their head ...

(August 2, 2017 at 4:48 pm)Mathilda Wrote: Can we hurry forward to the joke please about soldiers needing stonking erections on the battlefield with frickin laser beams on their head ...

I don't know that I'd want to run around with an erection, that could get painful. But as far as lasers go, we're sorta there, just not lethal.

The Dazzler

(July 27, 2017 at 2:52 pm)Khemikal Wrote: The service is, essentially, a factory for -producing- mental disorders in any case.  They take the term cluster to a whole new level. If we gave every joe with issues the boot wed run out of joes faster than you can say substance abuse.

You know? How many alcoholics have deployed?

How did we go from talking about transgender people in the military to erectile dysfunction? I feel like I missed a left turn somewhere lol.

-Teresa

Conservatives I talk to keep saying that Transgenders shouldn't be allowed in the military because it might make some military members uncomfortable.

...And they call us snowflakes?