(August 19, 2017 at 3:33 pm)Brian37 Wrote: You know the old saying, "Those who fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat it."

That is exacly my point Brian. Here we have a suspended bridge to the Tagus river in Lisbon (looks like a smaller version of the golden gate). It was called Salazar Bridge (the dictator). After the carnation revolution at 25th April 1974, the renamed it to "The 25th of April Bridge". I disagree. It was built under the hunger of our people, under no freedom. In the time I would get PIDE at my doorstep just for writing this post. There are still fucks around that think he was a great man. My grandpa spent 2 years in jail for uttering criticism against the fucker. He got leuchemia and was denied threathment. While both my dad and uncle were fighting abroad in Angola and Guinee. He died 2 months short before I was born in 1980. Tough dude.

In portuguese forums I usually tell those fuckers that still think he was a better guy than current politicians. My dad lost his dad in his 20 th year. He still speaks of him with great sorrow now. He kinda forgot about me and my two sisters after that, but I can't really blame him. I have told him many times he needed his dad to put a foot up his ass on time or another. Me? When I was 9, my dad was arguing with my mother and I feared he was going to beat her (he never did), so I slammed a chair in his back. Took a beating after that and he did not spoke with me for 2 months.

I blame my temper.

History is not so easily erased.  Thutmoses III tried to obliterate the memory of Hatshepsut.  3,500 years later we still know about her.

The commemoration of history?  That is another question.

(August 19, 2017 at 5:10 pm)Minimalist Wrote: History is not so easily erased.  Thutmoses III tried to obliterate the memory of Hatshepsut.  3,500 years later we still know about her.

The commemoration of history?  That is another question.

It seems to be easier to erase history than to learn it.

I'm happy that the counter-protest in Boston was mostly peaceful. The official numbers are 30,000-40,000 protestors with only a handful of arrests, the vast majority of the people anti-Nazi.

(August 19, 2017 at 5:59 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(August 19, 2017 at 5:10 pm)Minimalist Wrote: History is not so easily erased.  Thutmoses III tried to obliterate the memory of Hatshepsut.  3,500 years later we still know about her.

The commemoration of history?  That is another question.

It seems to be easier to erase history than to learn it.

And it's far easier to learn it than it is to convince people to accurately teach it.

(August 19, 2017 at 1:43 pm)A Theist Wrote:

(August 19, 2017 at 9:46 am)Brian37 Wrote: I guess you did not make that clear. Ok, I agree. But moreso done out of hate. In the context of history or satire when not done out of hate, with the consent of those involved that is different. But in general I agree. It certainly would not be wise to go out into public and use that word in front of people you do not know. 

If you did not notice Thena was poking fun of A-Theist who stepped in it making assumptions, and I used the word Negro, while not the "n" word still. Thena and I were making fun of many not understanding why blacks get "uppity". I want blacks to be "uppity", because I don't think they owe whites any coddling of their insecurities. I support equality, not any bullshit back of the bus crap. 

I didn't step into anything. Thena either misunderstood what I said or she purposely tried to make the intent of my comment into something totally different from what I said. All I meant, was, that I thought Thena was one of the nicer and more rational forum members here. So, I never expected her to so freely use the "N' word and to be so bigoted as to call the black people who supported the Stars and Bars and Confederate monuments, "Uncle Toms" and "Step'n Fetches", all because they don't march lock step to the expectations and demands of Stalinist radicalism. I'm a bit surprised at you too, Brain less. I know you can be a bitchy dopey dumb fuck most of the time, but I would never have expected the word coming from you, either. Especially since how you're constantly railing to an obsession against the GOP and conservatives as being racists, anti lgbt, gun toters, Bible Thumpers, hi dee hi dee ho and yada yada yada. I don't care in what context it's used I don't think it's appropriate in any circumstance. That's something I would expect from the bigoted closet racist asshole members like Minifullofshit or Khemi Kal Kan.

I used the word "nigger" as a means of mocking your shock and "disappointment" upon discovering that I don't approve of the sad, sick, pathetic Negroes who are stupid and misguided enough to celebrate the system itself, that saw their ancestors so psychologically damaged that they may have WANTED to fight alongside the captors/oppressors seeking to ensure their further dehumanization and subjugation, OR forced them to defend the Confederacy via coercive threats of violence and/or death. 

While I can imagine why you personally found those Uncle Toms behavior so refreshing and enchanting, I don't believe that you honestly expect any decent person with at least half of a functioning brain, to NOT recognize such sick adulation as disturbing.

So it's apparent that "nice" in the context you were referring to, was intended to mean "docile, happily subservient and/or stupid". 

In which case, you are correct...I am not nice.

(August 19, 2017 at 6:06 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:

(August 19, 2017 at 5:59 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: It seems to be easier to erase history than to learn it.

And it's far easier to learn it than it is to convince people to accurately teach it.

"Accurately"...

(August 18, 2017 at 11:03 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(August 18, 2017 at 10:18 am)KevinM1 Wrote: Anyone who says 'snowflake' seriously is an idiot.  Full stop.

...except as satire...

... or in pointing out hypocrisy. Which is often one and the same thing.

(August 19, 2017 at 4:01 pm)LastPoet Wrote:

(August 19, 2017 at 3:33 pm)Brian37 Wrote: You know the old saying, "Those who fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat it."

That is exacly my point Brian. Here we have a suspended bridge to the Tagus river in Lisbon (looks like a smaller version of the golden gate). It was called Salazar Bridge (the  dictator). After the carnation revolution at 25th April 1974, the renamed it to "The 25th of April Bridge". I disagree. It was built under the hunger of our people, under no freedom. In the time I would get PIDE at my doorstep just for writing this post. There are still fucks around that think he was a great man. My grandpa spent 2 years in jail for uttering criticism against the fucker. He got leuchemia and was denied threathment. While both my dad and uncle were fighting abroad in Angola and Guinee. He died 2 months short before I was born in 1980. Tough dude.

In portuguese forums I usually tell those fuckers that still think he was a better guy than current politicians. My dad lost his dad in his 20 th year. He still speaks of him with great sorrow now.  He kinda forgot about me and my two sisters after that, but I can't really blame him. I have told him many times he needed his dad to put a foot up his ass on time or another. Me? When I was 9, my dad was arguing with my mother and I feared he was going to beat her (he never did), so I slammed a chair in his back. Took a beating after that and he did not spoke with me for 2 months.

I blame my temper.

You talking about a horrible point in your past is keeping a horrible event alive. And that is my point. You were not glorifying what you just typed, just pointing out that others thought of someone as a hero and you knew the truth. The only way to correct a wrong, isn't for some to gloss it over, or for others in pain to ignore what happened to them, but to correct the event with no varnish. 

My point for example, the Lee Statue at UVA should NOT be destroyed, but moved. The park where the statue resides should be renamed Heather Heyer park even with a statue of her. The Lee statue should be simply put in a museum like Nazis depicted in the Holocaust Museum as the bad guy.

Does that make sense?

This just keeps getting better and better.  Apparently, there's some "stalinist radicalism" that the racists think they're fighting against. Fun fact, you know who was patently ill-equipped to fight actual stalinist radicalism? Nazis. They got owned like a bunch of bitches.