(August 29, 2017 at 11:42 am)Astonished Wrote:

(August 29, 2017 at 11:32 am)emjay Wrote: In that case I misunderstood, and took the word how it's usually employed; as a derogatory remark/generalisation about gay people full stop, anal sex or no, cos most people who use it don't make that distinction. I didn't know who you were talking about when you said that, but reading ahead it seems to be Min... so I jumped to conclusions thinking it was a specifically homosexual slur, since he's not. But it's still a horrible word and slur/generalisation however you use it, extended definition or not, IMO.

Oh, come on, that dickhole knew full well what he was saying. He claims to be better than us, once again trying to throw shade because he's insecure about his own failure as a human being.

Minimalist is not gay (or if he is, he's kept it very quiet ), so the usual usage of that word can't apply here. But it's just as derogatory in its more specialised usage.

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(August 29, 2017 at 11:49 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:

(August 29, 2017 at 11:32 am)emjay Wrote: But it's still a horrible word and slur/generalisation however you use it, extended definition or not, IMO.

I agree. It is a horrible word. He deserves it.

Well it's not my place to get involved in whatever fight you've got with Minimalist. As I said, I didn't know who you were talking about when you said that.

(August 29, 2017 at 11:29 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Even still I know that many liberal AF members consider any condemnation of fornication, which includes all sexual activity outside the bounds of a heterosexual marriage and includes prohibited sex acts within marriage or with animals, signs of bigotry. Nothing will sway them from that opinion.

Well, there is your use of the word "fornication", which carries rather specific prejudicial baggage and is, sadly, revealing of your personal stance. I'd call that bigotry, especially if nothing will sway you from such an opinion.

(August 29, 2017 at 10:59 am)Astonished Wrote: I'm not the one who's hurt because I'm not gay, but many people I do care about are gay

Are they hurt by the fact that when one identical twin is gay, the other usually isn't? Why?

Quote:and I don't like seeing them being oppressed by fucks like you who claim not to be intolerant and bigoted

How am I oppressing them? I have gay clients. I've never gone to an anti-gay demonstration. How is pointing out identical twins studies oppressing gays?

just because you don't like the definitions of those words and have to fall back on bullshit studies by liars like yourself to make yourselves believe you're right.[/quote]

To my knowledge the American Journal of Sociology isn't liars.

Quote:If you were right this would be the prevailing fucking opinion because that's how science works. This is why you fail. It's like climate change; no one likes it but the prevailing opinion in the scientific community is that it's happening and we're contributing to it. Get a fucking clue, wanker.

So why dis the AJS publish one of the articles I'm referring to?

(August 29, 2017 at 12:03 pm)Cyberman Wrote:

(August 29, 2017 at 11:29 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Even still I know that many liberal AF members consider any condemnation of fornication, which includes all sexual activity outside the bounds of a heterosexual marriage and includes prohibited sex acts within marriage or with animals, signs of bigotry. Nothing will sway them from that opinion.

Well, there is your use of the word "fornication", which carries rather specific prejudicial baggage and is, sadly, revealing of your personal stance. I'd call that bigotry, especially if nothing will sway you from such an opinion.

I think you will find that fornication is a very general word that applies to all kinds of sexual immorality. Gender identity wasn't a thing for the writers of the bible.

Quote: Oh please, you're just jealous because I have a life, while you're a bitter old man with nothing better to do than take articles other people have written and re-post them around the internet.

If you think groveling to a non-existant god so you'll have the pleasure of sucking his holy cock for eternity is a "life" then you are welcome to it, scumbag.  I'll take what I've had and invite you to blow your fucking jesus out your ass.

Go have a drink.  Make the world a better place.

(August 29, 2017 at 12:42 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:

(August 29, 2017 at 12:03 pm)Cyberman Wrote: Well, there is your use of the word "fornication", which carries rather specific prejudicial baggage and is, sadly, revealing of your personal stance. I'd call that bigotry, especially if nothing will sway you from such an opinion.

I think you will find that fornication is a very general word that applies to all kinds of sexual immorality. Gender identity wasn't a thing for the writers of the bible.

And presupposing sexual immorality is not a bigoted stance?

(August 29, 2017 at 2:10 pm)Cyberman Wrote:

(August 29, 2017 at 12:42 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I think you will find that fornication is a very general word that applies to all kinds of sexual immorality. Gender identity wasn't a thing for the writers of the bible.

And presupposing sexual immorality is not a bigoted stance?

Every suicide from gay conversion therapy attempts is on the head of pieces of intolerant bigoted shit who insist it's a fucking choice.

BTW, identical twins don't have the same fingerprints. Still think everything about them needs to be the fucking same? God DAMN I'm sick of retarded motherfuckers around here.

(August 29, 2017 at 2:10 pm)Cyberman Wrote:

(August 29, 2017 at 12:42 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I think you will find that fornication is a very general word that applies to all kinds of sexual immorality. Gender identity wasn't a thing for the writers of the bible.

And presupposing sexual immorality is not a bigoted stance?

If by bigotry you mean intolerance of beliefs and behaviors that offend some kind of moral standard, sure. I don't tolerate lies. You probably don't either. Or if you are talking about intolerance of self-selected groups that have vile and depraved ideologies, sure. I don't tolerate communist organizations. Otherwise sexual immorality is not limited to any particular demographic. Neither is any other type of immorality. There is nothing special about sexual immortality that separates it from other offenses. All forms of wickedness are lumped in together and not attributed uniquely to any particular group. For example:

"To the thirsty I will give water without cost from the spring of the water of life. Those who are victorious will inherit all this, and I will be their God and they will be my children. But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death." - Revelation 21:6-8

Just remember that when you point your finger at someone's infringement of your sensibilities, you have three fingers pointing back at you.

And why should I care what someone wrote in a dusty old book, especially when they can't even spell words like 'sulphur'?