(August 29, 2017 at 12:20 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: The Bible says if you're a good Christian and pray for something it will be granted. Not one single Christian prayed for Harvey to dry up and blow away.

 I did, apparently God saw fit to let it go as is. Not my call on such things because I'm not omnipresent.

GC

(August 31, 2017 at 7:38 pm)Godscreated Wrote:

(August 29, 2017 at 12:20 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: The Bible says if you're a good Christian and pray for something it will be granted. Not one single Christian prayed for Harvey to dry up and blow away.

 I did, apparently God saw fit to let it go as is. Not my call on such things because I'm not omnipresent.

GC

Or even believable.

(August 30, 2017 at 9:04 pm)Succubus Wrote: STOP SHOUTING!

---

(August 30, 2017 at 10:51 am)Luckie Wrote: Want to help? 

Stop SHOUTING!

Maybe.. maybe I should say it differently then, just to you. ;

(August 31, 2017 at 7:40 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(August 31, 2017 at 7:38 pm)Godscreated Wrote:  I did, apparently God saw fit to let it go as is. Not my call on such things because I'm not omnipresent.

GC

Or even believable.

I totally believe he prayed that, for sure. Alas my prayers for world peace, the end of famine, a miniature pink elephant with sparkly wings, and many other things have gone unanswered as well. Belief in prayer does not equate to action or any affect whatsoever in the physical world. Now, the act of meditating/praying does. And it does irregardless of creed so take that as you wish. Praying/meditating activates the same part of the brain for everyone, including rabbi's, christians, monks, muslims, nuns, etc. And that is the part of the brain responsible for spacial awareness. So, what mister GC is doing you might consider trying in your own version (I prefer meditation and yoga) because it does have positive effects on your body. It lowers blood pressure and contributes to memory and heart health when practiced regularly. Just like if I spent ten minutes a day strengthening my toes so I can wear flat toed ballet shoes. Repetitive action over time does change our bodies. Prayer and meditation doesn't, however, feed starving stomachs or stop flood waters from filling up your house. That's just silly.

I knew they couldn't hold their tongues. I just didn't expect it to be this hypocrite.

---

Speak of the Devil himself and he will greet you with sparkly Joel-ey eyes in a $4-8k striped suit. 

I suppose the people who died, got an F on the test then, Joel? 

NYTimes Wrote:Criticism of Mr. Osteen intensified after the church, which holds services in a 16,000-seat arena that used to house the Houston Rockets basketball team, posted on Facebook on Sundaythat the building was inaccessible because of “severe flooding.”

“We want to help make sure you are safe,” the post said, before providing a list of shelters in the area.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/29/us/joel-osteen-backlash-church.html

See? I'm not yelling, the Internet is yelling! 

And for good reason. 

Hand to sky, this one takes the cake for me, so far. Not because it's dumber than Anne Coulters theory, but because this is literally victimizing millions of people's minds. It's victim blaming them. What's worse though is that they have no idea they're being mindfucked! They just nod and believe that it whole heartedly is going to help them with their outlook on life in the wake of this utter disaster.

These poor people will wake up tomorrow with the same clothes on their backs and NOTHING else. Nothing. We have each other and put health yada yada BULLSHIT. Grandma was floating around in her nursing home, dogs died tied in the back yard, PEOPLE died. They DIED. 

Im sorry im not so "humble" enough to believe that we are not kidding ourselves if we think all 20k of people in shelters would be just fine finding out they're "just being tested" by god, or that this will somehow be a good thing. No matter how you cut it, their life is going to suck. It has changed and will never go back! They are going to be effected physically and psychologically for.. a long time. And no matter how hard they try, NONE of this is in their power, to change! 

Neither you nor I nor Joel Olsteen can guarantee that they'll even have breakfast in the morning. I hear some are going on 5 days now without food so don't give me this "God provides" nonsense, either. People are resourceful yeah, and they will keep pushing forward--but a lot of them just.. won't. 

Suicide rates skyrocket after natural disasters because PTSD is a real goddamned thing, and in all reality --none of us-- inherit $200 million and a golden toilet from their parents at the start of our lifetimes. 

These people are being told by this Preacher (and all the sister churches out-reaching to the community) that if they are not thriving or persevering, then they are failing GOD, their community, their families and themselves. Despite the millions of dollars all those churches could supply the community by paying taxes for just oNe year. Think about it.

Despite the FACT that these preachers drive jaguars and don't have to live in the "dangerous" parts of town because they have JETS to hop on and fly to their second homes with, they have the GALL to come tell theit community parishoners that the empire that was built with their own collection money, will remain as it is and their empire waits in heaven. 


And you know what these poor people will do? They're going to blame themselves. Not the government or these hypocrites, theyre going to blame themselves or people with even less than them.

Everywherre they look they will see failure and that pain is particularly excruciating and crippling. What do you do when you give your all to god amidst such a tragedy? Can he hear me? *goes to church, they say if I'm not seeing a "change in my life" somethings holding me back. Okay, revanp my entire being and shed who I was to be His. That didn't work? Who am I then? I'm not good enough for god, or I'm failing and don't know why or how to fix it!
Hopelessness. People may give up or they may be merely hindered, and some may think that they sinned too much to be forgiven--and when that happens, if they're still alive, they will find a penny on the ground. AND drop it in Joel Osteens monthly jet fuel and hair grease collection plate. It's, sickening.

No wonder Americans are so fucking depressed. 

(August 29, 2017 at 12:20 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: The Bible says if you're a good Christian and pray for something it will be granted. Not one single Christian prayed for Harvey to dry up and blow away.

Dude, Jesus promised Christians in Matthew 17:20 that with faith any Christian will be able to movie mountains! Yes you read it good MOUNTAINS! And yet no Christian has moved a mountain to block the flood and prevent it from happening. Nothing. They must really hate Texans or none of the Christians today have any faith in Jesus.

(September 5, 2017 at 4:26 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:

(August 29, 2017 at 12:20 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: The Bible says if you're a good Christian and pray for something it will be granted. Not one single Christian prayed for Harvey to dry up and blow away.

Dude, Jesus promised Christians in Matthew 17:20 that with faith any Christian will be able to movie mountains! Yes you read it good MOUNTAINS! And yet no Christian has moved a mountain to block the flood and prevent it from happening. Nothing. They must really hate Texans or none of the Christians today have any faith in Jesus.

Joss Whedon can movie mountains.

So Harvey hammers Houston and Trump arranges prayers.

And now Irma's on it's way.

Apparently God's a prick.


Or he doesn't exist.

(September 5, 2017 at 5:54 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(September 5, 2017 at 4:26 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Dude, Jesus promised Christians in Matthew 17:20 that with faith any Christian will be able to movie mountains! Yes you read it good MOUNTAINS! And yet no Christian has moved a mountain to block the flood and prevent it from happening. Nothing. They must really hate Texans or none of the Christians today have any faith in Jesus.

Joss Whedon can movie mountains.

But he'll fire flies...

In all fairness to God, yes he did bring lots of needed water. But he also brought the warmth of fire to dry up any excess water.

You see, because he lives beyond our universe, his magic "poofs" don't arrive at exactly the right time or place. We have severe "exactness" issues in our universe caused by the uncertainty of the quantum world. God has no control of his blessings once it leaves his wand. Sometimes worm holes get in the way, other times his blessings are voided by a black hole.

But he is doing his faultless best at all times. It is our universe and everything in it which is corrupted and needs saving.

(September 5, 2017 at 6:09 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: So Harvey hammers Houston and Trump arranges prayers.

And now Irma's on it's way.

Apparently God's a prick.


Or he doesn't exist.