I do wonder sometimes whether vorlon is an useful idiot or agent provocateur.

I hope Al Franken runs for President in 2020.

I can assure you in rural western Iowa, nothing is going on. Nada, zip, zilch.

Local party crawled up it's own asshole and died over a year ago in the lead up to the presidential election. Despite Obama's popularity in the area when he ran (he even campaigned here) Campaign Hillary wrote off the area, and it remains written off.


Yeah, radical thought there, rebuilding the party from the ground up. Attracting new blood, trying to generate some interest in local races and promoting the differences democrats can make here while establishing a base for statewide offices, and then rebuilding at a national level.


Listen to the crickets chirp . . .

(September 25, 2017 at 3:59 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: I can assure you in rural western Iowa, nothing is going on. Nada, zip, zilch.

Local party crawled up it's own asshole and died over a year ago in the lead up to the presidential election. Despite Obama's popularity in the area when he ran (he even campaigned here) Campaign Hillary wrote off the area, and it remains written off.


Yeah, radical thought there, rebuilding the party from the ground up. Attracting new blood, trying to generate some interest in local races and promoting the differences democrats can make here while establishing a base for statewide offices, and then rebuilding at a national level.


Listen to the crickets chirp . . .

That sounds like a good idea, unfortunately it runs into real people who support the Democratic party, some of whom believe that nobody can be progressive enough, and want ideological purity over expanding the party. These are the same people out there calling everyone and their mother Nazis. Hard to expand the base when you have a segment of the party that insults anyone to the right of themselves on any issue.

(September 26, 2017 at 12:03 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote:

(September 25, 2017 at 3:59 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: I can assure you in rural western Iowa, nothing is going on.  Nada, zip, zilch.

Local party crawled up it's own asshole and died over a year ago in the lead up to the presidential election.  Despite Obama's popularity in the area when he ran (he even campaigned here) Campaign Hillary wrote off the area, and it remains written off.


Yeah, radical thought there, rebuilding the party from the ground up.  Attracting new blood, trying to generate some interest in local races and promoting the differences democrats can make here while establishing a base for statewide offices, and then rebuilding at a national level.


Listen to the crickets chirp . . .

That sounds like a good idea, unfortunately it runs into real people who support the Democratic party,  some of whom believe that nobody can be progressive enough,  and want ideological purity over expanding the party. These are the same people out there calling everyone and their mother Nazis. Hard to expand the base when you have a segment of the party that insults anyone to the right of themselves on any issue.

I remember watching videos of SNL a year ago where Hillary was chatting on the phone with Jimmy Fallon who was playing Donald Trump with a real-life picture of Trump in the background, scowl and all, thinking, "Oh, shit, you're going to sink yourself."

So not siding with dicks is flaw . Look at how well doing so has done for Trump.

(September 26, 2017 at 2:09 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: So not siding with dicks is flaw . Look at how well doing so has done for Trump.

Trump is a Shock Jock.  People will get bored with him and move on, unless he starts a war.  But, yes, Hillary was arrogant and dumb, a career politician whose heart was in the right place but who, from her arrogance, made some very poor choices, which The People held her accountable for.  Trump gets a free pass until at least he is prosecuted, as he is not a career politician but a celebrity buffoon who bought his way into the Presidency.  Hillary should not have insulted good old American white trash or pissed-off middle class American white women with her elitism.   She should have actively campaigned in Wisconsin, Michigan and the rest of the Rust Belt instead of wasting her time and resources in the Deep South; she started off with a solid 245 electoral votes and all that she needed was Wisconsin & Michigan to seal the deal.  She should have campaigned there, not insulted Trump supporters, not appeared on SNL, ever, and at least on occasion, she should have worn a skirt while on the campaign trail.

If she had done that, she would now be the POTUS.