(September 26, 2017 at 3:28 pm)Godscreated Wrote:

(September 26, 2017 at 3:26 pm)Astreja Wrote: Then I choose hell.  See you there.

Not me deary. It want be fun I can tell you that, eternal misery.

*Springy G goes into Full Goddess Mode and reaches for Her Clue-By-Four™*

*BONK*

For that blatantly sexist "dearie," GC, I have taken the liberty of seizing control of your mind and soul.  From this point forward, whenever you read John 3:16 you will hear the word "bullshit" in your unconscious mind.  Whenever you see an open fire, your unconscious mind will see your families' faces in the flames and you will start to shiver and shake.  And if I do end up in hell, you will be bodily ripped from the punctured hands of Gentle Jesus Meek and Mild and bound to me as my personal assistant for eternity --

-- or at least as long as it takes Me to liberate all the sufferers from hell.

Because I'm not nearly as much of an S.O.B. as the S.O.B. you worship.

(September 26, 2017 at 3:22 pm)Godscreated Wrote: ...He has said He desires no one to go to hell, if you do it's your choice. Neurologically you have it backwards for anything in life, now I understand what you're problem is, you should have explained this long ago, it would have saved us much time.

GC

His desires, how can an omniscient god have desires? He knew before he created us which of us were destined for hell.

(September 26, 2017 at 3:28 pm)Godscreated Wrote:

(September 25, 2017 at 5:27 pm)Mathilda Wrote: And if you pick the wrong faith then you do not have any way of correcting yourself because at no point have you mentioned questioning.

I don't think you know what critical thinking skills even are. If I am wrong then maybe you'd like to tell us what you'd need to do to think critically.

 I do not have to use critical thinking to tear down things, I can use it to find truth. There are no other gods so I have the right One, the One who has saved me.

Obviously you don't know what critical thinking skills are.

Nor can you respond to the point that your method is not self correcting if you pick the wrong god to have faith in. This tells us that you could be wrong about everything that you believe in and not realise.

Could be wrong?
I thought common sense, science and our instincts do tell us that they are wrong about everything that they believe in.
Which is why nobody naturally believes in fairy tales without the prior mental preconditioning needed.

(September 26, 2017 at 3:22 pm)Godscreated Wrote:

(September 25, 2017 at 5:08 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: Yes, apparently an order that results in a chaotic belief.

Christianity when lived as we are instructed is orderly and leads to a peace that goes beyond your understanding, which I have.

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Another baseless claim.

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(September 26, 2017 at 3:22 pm)Godscreated Wrote: He has said He desires no one to go to hell, if you do it's your choice. Neurologically you have it backwards for anything in life, now I understand what you're problem is, you should have explained this long ago, it would have saved us much time.

GC

Really?! Anything in life requires you to believe in it before you even know it exists?  You're so full of shit.

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(September 26, 2017 at 3:28 pm)Godscreated Wrote:

(September 25, 2017 at 5:27 pm)Mathilda Wrote: And if you pick the wrong faith then you do not have any way of correcting yourself because at no point have you mentioned questioning.

I don't think you know what critical thinking skills even are. If I am wrong then maybe you'd like to tell us what you'd need to do to think critically.

 I do not have to use critical thinking to tear down things, I can use it to find truth. There are no other gods so I have the right One, the One who has saved me.

GC

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The fact that you see separating fact from fiction as "tearing down" shows your emotional investment in believing only what you want to believe.

(September 27, 2017 at 4:24 am)Succubus Wrote:

(September 26, 2017 at 3:22 pm)Godscreated Wrote: ...He has said He desires no one to go to hell, if you do it's your choice. Neurologically you have it backwards for anything in life, now I understand what you're problem is, you should have explained this long ago, it would have saved us much time.

GC

His desires, how can an omniscient god have desires? He knew before he created us which of us were destined for hell.

 And He still gives you a chance to change your mind, actually many chances. Know what, unknown to you is your eternal outcome, you have a choice and you will make it and have to live with it forever.

GC

(September 28, 2017 at 3:35 pm)Godscreated Wrote:

(September 27, 2017 at 4:24 am)Succubus Wrote: His desires, how can an omniscient god have desires? He knew before he created us which of us were destined for hell.

 And He still gives you a chance to change your mind, actually many chances. Know what, unknown to you is your eternal outcome, you have a choice and you will make it and have to live with it forever.

You didn't answer the question though. How can an omniscient god have desires?

Add to that a few questions from me.

What is a god?
How can a god be male? Why not refer to it as 'It' rather than 'he'?
Other than because it is written down in your Holey Bibble, how do you actually know that you aren't just imagining it all?

(September 26, 2017 at 3:37 pm)Astreja Wrote:

(September 26, 2017 at 3:28 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Not me deary. It want be fun I can tell you that, eternal misery.

*Springy G goes into Full Goddess Mode and reaches for Her Clue-By-Four™*

*BONK*

For that blatantly sexist "dearie," GC, I have taken the liberty of seizing control of your mind and soul.  From this point forward, whenever you read John 3:16 you will hear the word "bullshit" in your unconscious mind.  Whenever you see an open fire, your unconscious mind will see your families' faces in the flames and you will start to shiver and shake.  And if I do end up in hell, you will be bodily ripped from the punctured hands of Gentle Jesus Meek and Mild and bound to me as my personal assistant for eternity --

-- or at least as long as it takes Me to liberate all the sufferers from hell.

Because I'm not nearly as much of an S.O.B. as the S.O.B. you worship.

It wasn't meant to be sexist, you just wanted it to be so you could rant, I find that truly childish and pitiful. You may be old in years but you have a very vindictive childish mind that needs to grow up and act responsible.

GC

(September 28, 2017 at 3:50 pm)Godscreated Wrote: It wasn't meant to be sexist, you just wanted it to be so you could rant, I find that truly childish and pitiful. You may be old in years but you have a very vindictive childish mind that needs to grow up and act responsible.

Says the person who still believes in magic.

(September 28, 2017 at 3:42 pm)Mathilda Wrote:

(September 28, 2017 at 3:35 pm)Godscreated Wrote:  And He still gives you a chance to change your mind, actually many chances. Know what, unknown to you is your eternal outcome, you have a choice and you will make it and have to live with it forever.

You didn't answer the question though. How can an omniscient god have desires?

Add to that a few questions from me.

What is a god?
How can a god be male? Why not refer to it as 'It' rather than 'he'?
Other than because it is written down in your Holey Bibble, how do you actually know that you aren't just imagining it all?

 See the bold above by me, it tells me you are childish at the very least and that means you probably can't understand what I'm about to post.

 Because God is all knowing doesn't mean He can't have desires. In the case being discussed He desired that those He knows will chose hell might change their mind, it's why He gives them the chance to do so. He desired this universe and made it for us even though He knew we would corrupt it through sin, and we did and still do.
 
God is spirit, what that actually is could only be a guess, I do know it means He doesn't have a physical body, being spirit allows Him to be everywhere in all times at all times  and contain powers we can not fathom.

 He calls Himself Father because He created us and cares for us in many ways we never see, just like our earthly fathers do or at least the ones who love their children do.

 You probably have a feminist agenda against God referring to himself as male, take it up with Him not me. I call the Triune God he because that's the way He describes himself. being the creator gives Him the right to do so.

 Because I have experienced God outside the Bible in my everyday life with Him. God through His grace has given me the knowledge of His existence, that's how relationships work when you want them to be good and lasting.

 I'm sure those answers aren't satisfactory to you, but I answered them nevertheless and I hope in answering them you are satisfied I did as you requested, not that I always will.

 GC

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(September 28, 2017 at 4:14 pm)Mathilda Wrote:

(September 28, 2017 at 3:50 pm)Godscreated Wrote: It wasn't meant to be sexist, you just wanted it to be so you could rant, I find that truly childish and pitiful. You may be old in years but you have a very vindictive childish mind that needs to grow up and act responsible.

Says the person who still believes in magic.

More childish babble, I have never believed in magic and never will. I do believe in the capabilities of the omnipotent God of creation, much different than magic and some day you will realize this truth, hopefully not to late.

GC