(October 10, 2017 at 3:37 pm)bennyboy Wrote: the SJW culture is ...

as real as the Vulcan culture.

It is a slogan created by far-right racists like Wooters because they haz a sad that there is no equivalent to them on the opposite side.

(October 10, 2017 at 1:34 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(October 10, 2017 at 12:47 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: And because the # of Representatives varies by population, your "point" (which is simply a weak attempt at an "aha!" moment) does nothing to change my point, that the EC equalizes the influence of small and large states.

You're paranoid. I'm just being informative.

No, the EC does not equalize the states. It favors small states. It was designed to do so.

https://law.marquette.edu/facultyblog/20...nt-page-1/

Quote:One of the many unusual features of the Electoral College established by Article II, Section 1, of the United States Constitution is the provision that specifies that each state shall have “a Number of Electors equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress.”

The one obvious consequence of this provision is to enhance the influence of the smaller states in the selection of the president.   Because of this provision, smaller states are disproportionately represented in the Electoral College.  For example, the 12 smallest states today—Alaska, Delaware, Hawaii, Idaho, Maine, Montana, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont, and Wyoming together account for only 17 (of 435) representatives in the House, or 3.9% of the total.  However, in the Electoral College, thanks to the “Senate bump,” the same states account for 41 electoral votes, or 7.6% of the total of 538.

Here's a book you can read:
https://www.amazon.ca/Summer-1787-Men-In...0743286936

So you're saying that Rhode Island and Cali have equitable delegations in the EC?

(October 10, 2017 at 3:39 pm)Khemikal Wrote: The "sjw culture" is a boogeyman Benny.  MLK was an sjw.  Not that this will change a bigots view of social justice...we all know what they think of him, lol.

You are conflating an actual warrior for real social justice, an important person with an important message, with SJW, which is a euphemism.  They are not the same thing.
SJW, in my mind, refers to those who appoint themselves ministers of the dogma of the left.  And please understand that I don't think left ideas are dogma: equality among all people is very important to me; health care in my opinion must be considered an inalienable right; people should have the right to love whoever they want.  However, there are no ideas which are intrinsically "right"-- not any-- and when ideas ARE taken as intrinsically right, then dogma is established, and all the pitfalls that go along with it are alive and well.

(October 10, 2017 at 4:03 pm)bennyboy Wrote:

(October 10, 2017 at 3:39 pm)Khemikal Wrote: The "sjw culture" is a boogeyman Benny.  MLK was an sjw.  Not that this will change a bigots view of social justice...we all know what they think of him, lol.

You are conflating an actual warrior for real social justice, an important person with an important message, with SJW, which is a euphemism.  They are not the same thing.
SJW, in my mind, refers to those who appoint themselves ministers of the dogma of the left.  And please understand that I don't think left ideas are dogma: equality among all people is very important to me; health care in my opinion must be considered an inalienable right; people should have the right to love whoever they want.  However, there are no ideas which are intrinsically "right"-- not any-- and when ideas ARE taken as intrinsically right, then dogma is established, and all the pitfalls that go along with it are alive and well.

A euphemism for a boogeyman....that's what I keep trying to tell you, and even though you explicitly identify "sjw culture" with leftism you vehemently deny even the possibility that you might have swallowed batshit right leaning propaganda. Tell me why an sjw can't be right leaning, has that ever occurred to you?

It's real easy to find a 19 year old kid with one semester of social core under their belt who says dumb shit. That's never not been true. The fiction of sjw culture as the alt-right trolls have sold it relies on you actually believing that the dregs they frantically search the internet for somehow represent something more...and more often than not it requires that you believe a ludicrous story as told by an alt right troll.

It doesn't. You've been conned, and bigotry has been normalized by this con as "just another opinion". Who benefits from discrediting the very notion of social justice, if you had to guess, Benny? Who seems chiefly engaged and interested in doing so? Those things you mentioned above, for example, the right to love whomever someone wants. That's sjw shit. If you suggested that a person who opposed such a right just -might- be a bigot whose opinions have no place in our laws.....you're an sjw.

That's how that works.

(October 10, 2017 at 3:45 pm)Tazzycorn Wrote:

(October 10, 2017 at 3:37 pm)bennyboy Wrote: the SJW culture is ...

as real as the Vulcan culture.

It is a slogan created by far-right racists like Wooters because they haz a sad that there is no equivalent to them on the opposite side.

I'm pretty sure Wooters is not a "far-right racist."  If he were, he wouldn't spend so much time here, I think.

But the use of this kind of language is exactly what I'm talking about, and I'd say that you and Khemikal are doing a pretty good job of showing that there are, in fact, SJWs.  Nor would I consider SJW a far-right term.  I consider myself left-leaning, and I do not see dogmatization of discussions about race or anything else as a left-wing principle.

Left/right shouldn't be the metric most cared about.  Truth / falsehood should be.  What falsehood does the OP represent, actually?  Do you dispute that those things happened?  Do you think Neo's criticism of them should be disregarded because of who you think Neo is?

(October 10, 2017 at 4:09 pm)bennyboy Wrote:

(October 10, 2017 at 3:45 pm)Tazzycorn Wrote: as real as the Vulcan culture.

It is a slogan created by far-right racists like Wooters because they haz a sad that there is no equivalent to them on the opposite side.

I'm pretty sure Wooters is not a "far-right racist."  If he were, he wouldn't spend so much time here, I think.

But the use of this kind of language is exactly what I'm talking about, and I'd say that you and Khemikal are doing a pretty good job of showing that there are, in fact, SJWs.  Nor would I consider SJW a far-right term.  I consider myself left-leaning, and I do not see dogmatization of discussions about race or anything else as a left-wing principle.

Left/right shouldn't be the metric most cared about.  Truth / falsehood should be.  What falsehood does the OP represent, actually?  Do you dispute that those things happened?  Do you think Neo's criticism of them should be disregarded because of who you think Neo is?

Stop making me like you with your reasonable posts, damn it!

(October 10, 2017 at 4:08 pm)Khemikal Wrote:

(October 10, 2017 at 4:03 pm)bennyboy Wrote: You are conflating an actual warrior for real social justice, an important person with an important message, with SJW, which is a euphemism.  They are not the same thing.
SJW, in my mind, refers to those who appoint themselves ministers of the dogma of the left.  And please understand that I don't think left ideas are dogma: equality among all people is very important to me; health care in my opinion must be considered an inalienable right; people should have the right to love whoever they want.  However, there are no ideas which are intrinsically "right"-- not any-- and when ideas ARE taken as intrinsically right, then dogma is established, and all the pitfalls that go along with it are alive and well.

A euphemism for a boogeyman....that's what I keep trying to tell you, and even though you explicitly identify "sjw culture" with leftism you vehemently deny even the possibility that you might have swallowed batshit right leaning propaganda.

No.  You have it wrong.

I do not define SJW culture with leftism-- I define it by an expression of a DOGMA of the left.  Those are radically different positions. I am very much FOR ideas of the left, and very much AGAINST the dogmatization of those ideas for the purposes of division, social exclusion, and an instant shut-down of any subject of conversation not considered kosher.

And you've made this claim before, that I'm sheeple, and that I can't distinguish the propaganda of the right from the truth.  But you have it wrong-- it is because I have some understanding of dogma and its evils that I cannot tolerate ANY dogma, literally any of it, from being established and expressed: either with smugness or with torches. "Two legs good, four legs baaaaaa-aaa-a-aad" really doesn't improve in value of you manage to change it to "four legs good, two legs baaaa-aad."

(October 10, 2017 at 3:46 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: So you're saying that Rhode Island and Cali have equitable delegations in the EC?

Of course not. I'm saying that RI has greater per capita representation in the EC than CA.

Don't you get this?

Suppose that a large state has 50 representatives. It gets 52 electors - 50 representatives plus 2 senators.

Now suppose that ten small states have an aggregate of 50 representatives (i.e. aggregate population is the same as the large state). They would have 70 aggregate electors - 50 representatives plus (10 X 2) senators.

The fact that you define social justice as an expression of the dogma of the left...again, and however you word it next, will still point to exactly the same thing. What prevents it from being an expression of the dogma of the right? Is the homo-hating christian cake baker not a social justice warrior? Are they not seeking social justice as they see it?

I don;t think your a sheeple, I think that your a human being. Human beings are susceptible to a broad array of manipulative influence. This little bit of nonsense was explicitly designed as propaganda in service of consequence free bigotry. Why do you find it insulting to consider that it might have influenced your opinion?

Tell me more about torches, btw, and whose carting them around of late?

(October 10, 2017 at 4:09 pm)bennyboy Wrote: I'm pretty sure Wooters is not a "far-right racist."  If he were, he wouldn't spend so much time here, I think.

But the use of this kind of language is exactly what I'm talking about, and I'd say that you and Khemikal are doing a pretty good job of showing that there are, in fact, SJWs.  Nor would I consider SJW a far-right term.  I consider myself left-leaning, and I do not see dogmatization of discussions about race or anything else as a left-wing principle.

Left/right shouldn't be the metric most cared about.  Truth / falsehood should be.  What falsehood does the OP represent, actually?  Do you dispute that those things happened?  Do you think Neo's criticism of them should be disregarded because of who you think Neo is?

I'd say he probably is a far right racist.  Far right racists masturbate to getting people riled up with their racist rants.  Wooters is probably jerking his micropenis right now to the people getting mad at him.  Why wouldn't they come to a board where they can piss off the most people they possibly can?  I mean it's pretty damning when you care more about people taking a knee for the anthem, or 'safe spaces' than you give two fucks about people being killed by police.  Pretty fucking telling indeed.

I mean let's be honest.  He's using a stupid example in his opening post to dismiss serious claims.  That in itself is pretty fucking racist, especially since those claims come mainly from black people.  

I'm pretty sure it makes you a fucking racist if you dismiss concerns of a racial group because of something else some of them do you disagree with.  Especially when it's something so fucking small as this (though still not as small as his penis)