(November 1, 2017 at 6:51 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:

(November 1, 2017 at 6:42 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: That's how I see it too. When I'm going to make a comment like that, I'm always very careful to put the word "some" in there.

Been there, done that. If you are a conservative it still doesn't matter. You can provide an abundance of context and your position will still be misconstrued and you'll be accused of racism. The mods intentions are pure, but I doubt it will be enforced. Just a little cynical lately.

I think they will prove you wrong on that. They've shown to be very objective and fair.

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(November 1, 2017 at 7:00 pm)Hammy Wrote: Isn't it largely your own threads you have to worry about?

He revealed earlier on in this thread that he made those threads purely to show the hypocrisy and make a point.

Because there were a lot of threads doing that to Christians and conservatives, etc.

(November 1, 2017 at 7:14 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: He revealed earlier on in this thread that he made those threads purely to show the hypocrisy and make a point.

Well, he sure made threads that demonstrated he's just as bad as the people he criticizes. But I don't see how that makes the other people he criticized hypocritical. Doesn't criticizing people and then doing the same thing as they did make him hypocritical? Isn't he only pointing out his own hypocrisy? How can the first movers be hypocrites? Isn't a hypocrite someone who criticizes something and then goes and does it themselves whilst continuing to criticize it?

Quote:Been there, done that. If you are a conservative it still doesn't matter. You can provide an abundance of context and your position will still be misconstrued and you'll be accused of racism. The mods intentions are pure, but I doubt it will be enforced. Just a little cynical lately.

Or more reasonably none of use believe those are real reason and instead are smoke screen to hide your bullshit . Based on a consistent pattern of responses when your mask slips . And this is just more of you playing the victim .

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Quote:He revealed earlier on in this thread that he made those threads purely to show the hypocrisy and make a point.

By himself doing the same thing he accuses other people of ? And lying while doing it . And the whole demonstration (if you believe him ) is kind of weakened when the subject and rhetoric sounds like something Wooter would say anyway .

great rule; I wish Rik, Drich, MK happy trails

(November 1, 2017 at 7:29 pm)Hammy Wrote:

(November 1, 2017 at 7:14 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: He revealed earlier on in this thread that he made those threads purely to show the hypocrisy and make a point.

Well, he sure made threads that demonstrated he's just as bad as the people he criticizes. But I don't see how that makes the other people he criticized hypocritical. Doesn't criticizing people and then doing the same thing as they did make him hypocritical? Isn't he only pointing out his own hypocrisy? How can the first movers be hypocrites? Isn't a hypocrite someone who criticizes something and then goes and does it themselves whilst continuing to criticize it?

Because some people will do it themselves but then criticize the person who does the exact same thing against their side.

That's not really refutation of Hammy's point

(November 1, 2017 at 8:38 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(November 1, 2017 at 7:29 pm)Hammy Wrote: Well, he sure made threads that demonstrated he's just as bad as the people he criticizes. But I don't see how that makes the other people he criticized hypocritical. Doesn't criticizing people and then doing the same thing as they did make him hypocritical? Isn't he only pointing out his own hypocrisy? How can the first movers be hypocrites? Isn't a hypocrite someone who criticizes something and then goes and does it themselves whilst continuing to criticize it?

Because some people will do it themselves but then criticize the person who does the exact same thing against their side.

I think what is being criticized is the fact that Neo thinks it's okay to do something he criticizes others of doing. And doing something that he criticizes other people of doing, isn't really making any point besides the fact that he is a hypocrite for criticizing them in the first place.

I get your point that Neo is trying to provoke hypocritical responses from people who do the same thing, but then not only is that an admission of being intentionally provocative on his part, but if what people are really doing is criticizing his own hypocrisy in doing the same thing he criticizes others for, then that's not them being hypocrites that's him being a hypocrite. Criticizing him for being a hypocrite is not criticizing him for doing what they do.

And the people who AREN'T doing the thing he criticizes them for (which is most people on AF), are perfectly entitled to criticize both groups without being hypocritical of course.

As a wise staff member already mentioned in relation to what Neo was doing: two wrongs don't make a right.

(November 1, 2017 at 9:30 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: two wrongs don't make a right.

Thanks for putting it a million times conciser than I did

(November 1, 2017 at 7:29 pm)Hammy Wrote:

(November 1, 2017 at 7:14 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: He revealed earlier on in this thread that he made those threads purely to show the hypocrisy and make a point.

Well, he sure made threads that demonstrated he's just as bad as the people he criticizes. But I don't see how that makes the other people he criticized hypocritical. Doesn't criticizing people and then doing the same thing as they did make him hypocritical? Isn't he only pointing out his own hypocrisy? How can the first movers be hypocrites? Isn't a hypocrite someone who criticizes something and then goes and does it themselves whilst continuing to criticize it?

Yup and then when we criticize him for doing so . We are apparently hypocrites .