Sometimes it's good to have a conversation with a non believer because you learn certain things from them and they learn certain things from you because you're both open minded and you both have a good conversation.

Other times some people are just close minded, they don't care about having a conversation, they're just there to show their "dominance" over you with comments that degrade virgin Mary, how you're too weak minded to be believing in "made up stories", or just to poke fun at you. Well, you can tell these assholes asking for evidence of God is silly according to their own standards. Why?

Because it's a strawman fallacy. How?

Only scientific textbooks needs to provide scientific evidence.

Nowhere in the Bible does it claim to be a scientific textbook, it's a religious textbook and it's called the Christian faith not the Christian science.

So when someone asks for scientific evidence they themselves are asserting that Bible is a scientific textbook(which it never claimed) and then asks for evidence(which it doesn't have to present).

So next time someone just wants to shut you down, you can do the same thing to them. Ask them to show where in the bible it claims to be a scientific textbook and then you'll give the scientific evidence.

The most obvious reply will be "So if Bible isn't scientific it isn't real is it lolololol". You can use the same trick atheists use(It's not that I DON'T believe in God or claim God doesn't exist, I just reject the claim). Just reply "I never claimed Bible isn't scientific, I just reject your claim that Bible is scientific because you didn't provide any evidence to back it up"

Obviously only use this against assholes that just want to mock and belittle you, having a discussion is always good but some people are just assholes that doesn't deserve a decent conversation and it also doesn't hurt to have a bigger arsenal.

Pooley, the bible isn't a scientific book, neither is Lord of the rings.
But for some silly reason theists treat the bible and koran as non fiction.
There lies the problem.
It's called indoctrination. It bypasses all logic circuits to protect the embedded fantasy.
It's not rocket science...

Evidence isn’t restricted to science, despite what you say.
Also, you mocking others who belittle...hypocrite much?

Am I missing something?

It seems to me that the only reason why one would even talk about evidence for the existence of God would be due to expectations of non-spontaneous belief.

The strawman, therefore, comes from those expectations, which fail to consider that people are entitled to simply disregard theistic belief.

(November 9, 2017 at 1:21 am)pool the matey Wrote: Other times some people are just close minded, they don't care about having a conversation, they're just there to show their "dominance" over you with comments that degrade virgin Mary, how you're too weak minded to be believing in "made up stories", or just to poke fun at you. Well, you can tell these assholes asking for evidence of God is silly according to their own standards. Why?

This is a strawman.

Are you sure you understand what a strawman is ?

No.

We ask for evidence when theists want us to believe what they believe.

But they expect us to take their word for their claims.

(November 9, 2017 at 5:51 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: No.

We ask for evidence when theists want us to believe what they believe.

But they expect us to take their word for their claims.

I was just going to post:

"Dafuq?"

but you fleshed it out WAY better.

I agree, the bible is in no way scientific.

Here is a book that dictates to us how we should think, behave and live our lives, all on the say so of some undefined supernatural being.

I'm at a loss to why people would want to see evidence for the existence of such a being, I mean, how can you read the bible and not believe?

(November 9, 2017 at 6:19 am)Cod Wrote: I agree, the bible is in no way scientific.

Here is a book that dictates to us how we should think, behave and live our lives, all on the say so of some undefined supernatural being.

I'm at a loss to why people would want to see evidence for the existence of such a being, I mean, how can you read the bible Book of Mormon and not believe?

TFTFY

(November 9, 2017 at 5:43 am)pgrimes15 Wrote:

(November 9, 2017 at 1:21 am)pool the matey Wrote: Other times some people are just close minded, they don't care about having a conversation, they're just there to show their "dominance" over you with comments that degrade virgin Mary, how you're too weak minded to be believing in "made up stories", or just to poke fun at you. Well, you can tell these assholes asking for evidence of God is silly according to their own standards. Why?

This is a strawman.

Are you sure you understand what a strawman is ?

I think he's experimenting with some new nested strawman fallacy algorithms?

Hey Pooley, have you really turned to the dark side? Are you really subscribing to a foreign imported religion called Christianity? What's wrong with home grown?
I'm still with Zeus here ..gotta be true to your culture man. (and since they're all equally bullshite, no difference anyway, right?) Didn't Zeus have a bigger cock?