And for the record, Lewis was a better christian than most of those whom he excoriated. At least he was intelligent enough to suggest that christianity was fucked in its execution due to rabid sectarianism.
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A question about original sin.
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 (August 15, 2011 at 10:02 pm)Cinjin Wrote:Wow, im still perplexed at the different perception, understood by our own comprehension and yet the denial that it supposedly not our fault.(August 15, 2011 at 9:18 pm)C Rod Wrote: "What if God, choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath-prepared for destruction? What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory?" Rom 9:22-23 "Bore with great patience" and "objects of his mercy" left these out did ya, they make no sense, right.
"Its not what your looking at that matters, its what you see." -Henry David Thoreau
♪Oh, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get Lost in my mind Lost in my Mind Yes, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get lost I get lost Oh, I get♪ -The Head and the Heart "You are wise, witty and wonderful, but you spend too much time reading this sort of stuff.”- Frank Crane RE: A question about original sin.
August 17, 2011 at 9:33 pm
(This post was last modified: August 17, 2011 at 9:34 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Mercy, in your book, to rip a page right out of the field manual:
It's context. Mercy, to your god, appears to be either a swift death or an eternity of servitude.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(August 17, 2011 at 9:33 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Mercy, in your book, to rip a page right out of the field manual: A humble man wishes to serve even if he does not.
"Its not what your looking at that matters, its what you see." -Henry David Thoreau
♪Oh, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get Lost in my mind Lost in my Mind Yes, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get lost I get lost Oh, I get♪ -The Head and the Heart "You are wise, witty and wonderful, but you spend too much time reading this sort of stuff.”- Frank Crane
A humble man avoids making fantastic claims to hidden knowledge.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
RE: A question about original sin.
August 17, 2011 at 9:49 pm
(This post was last modified: August 17, 2011 at 9:57 pm by C Rod.)
(August 16, 2011 at 12:22 pm)Captain Scarlet Wrote: This is an impossibly incoherent sentence. Attempts to destroy religion are futile and I really couldn't care less what people believe. Just put the facts out there and let the people decide. But if religion invades my space I'll push back on it. It's that simple. Everything you said was coherent and right, i have nothing to respond but to that remark. Why not care what we believe, do you not wish to help us or "free" us? (August 17, 2011 at 9:47 pm)Rhythm Wrote: A humble man avoids making fantastic claims to hidden knowledge. The bible is hidden knowledge?, it is a beautiful story which claims are fantastic. A book, a piece of literature, is that the worst way to pass on permissible knowledge.
"Its not what your looking at that matters, its what you see." -Henry David Thoreau
♪Oh, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get Lost in my mind Lost in my Mind Yes, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get lost I get lost Oh, I get♪ -The Head and the Heart "You are wise, witty and wonderful, but you spend too much time reading this sort of stuff.”- Frank Crane
Apparently it is hidden knowledge, we look and see abject cruelty and injustice. You look and there are butterflies leaping off the page skipping down candied roads with giant plush teddies. Maybe it's in the margins?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(August 17, 2011 at 9:59 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Apparently it is hidden knowledge, we look and see abject cruelty and injustice. You look and there are butterflies leaping off the page skipping down candied roads with giant plush teddies. Maybe it's in the margins? I love that conclusion, the very difference is our abject perception and understanding of the same thing. Not a half full or half empty idea but a knowledge of justification through this great difference. A view of life and acceptance of what is true that ripples through every action. This defines us, not the thing itself but what the thing represents. Is this choice or ignorance? Should we all be conformed to one idea? Do you think it is injustice to know that a criminal for sure will commit a crime again if let off the hook and so you eliminate his presence for it will always be evil?
"Its not what your looking at that matters, its what you see." -Henry David Thoreau
♪Oh, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get Lost in my mind Lost in my Mind Yes, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get lost I get lost Oh, I get♪ -The Head and the Heart "You are wise, witty and wonderful, but you spend too much time reading this sort of stuff.”- Frank Crane RE: A question about original sin.
August 17, 2011 at 10:47 pm
(This post was last modified: August 17, 2011 at 10:48 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
The differences between us wouldn't have any bearing if you would stop claiming an absolute cosmic truth. I alone make this argument invalid ( an argument further complicated by anyone who disagrees with us both).
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(August 17, 2011 at 10:47 pm)Rhythm Wrote: The differences between us wouldn't have any bearing if you would stop claiming an absolute cosmic truth. I alone make this argument invalid ( an argument further complicated by anyone who disagrees with us both). Difference is not the thing itself but what it represents. Its simpler than what your proposing. And could you answer those questions.
"Its not what your looking at that matters, its what you see." -Henry David Thoreau
♪Oh, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get Lost in my mind Lost in my Mind Yes, I get lost in my mind Lost, I get lost I get lost I get lost Oh, I get♪ -The Head and the Heart "You are wise, witty and wonderful, but you spend too much time reading this sort of stuff.”- Frank Crane |
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