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RE: Christian Parents Abuse their Children
November 20, 2017 at 8:43 pm
Thank you Valkyre and Boru.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Christian Parents Abuse their Children
November 20, 2017 at 8:46 pm
(November 20, 2017 at 7:26 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: (November 20, 2017 at 6:37 pm)Bow Before Zeus Wrote: I prefer to be locked in a room with Person C who is incapable of having any violent thoughts. That way I am guaranteed that he will not act in a violent manner.
That's cheating. The purpose of the thought experiment was to gauge the ethical relevance of thoughts vs actions. C'mon A or B. Which is it?
But your person A/B experiment is not a fair experiment. Clearly B is the preference because he follows his unethical thinking with ethical thinking. So ethical thoughts win out again. I'm still choosing the person that has more ethical thinking processes.
The point I was trying to make is that the person with the most ethical thought processes (ie has 100% ethical thoughts and 0% unethical thoughts) is the best preference as he is uncapable of any unwholesome words/actions. Purely because of his different thought processes - ie ethical only thought processes.
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RE: Christian Parents Abuse their Children
November 20, 2017 at 11:37 pm
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: Christian Parents Abuse their Children
November 21, 2017 at 12:00 am
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RE: Christian Parents Abuse their Children
November 21, 2017 at 6:28 am
(November 20, 2017 at 8:43 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Thank you Valkyre and Boru.
De nada, ducks. You're a perfect example of what I'm talking about. You're clearly among the faithful and (I assume) had a religious upbringing, and seem to be no more maladjusted than the rest of us.
Except for the poo fixation, of course. 
Boru
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RE: Christian Parents Abuse their Children
November 21, 2017 at 6:50 am
(November 19, 2017 at 8:40 am)Bow Before Zeus Wrote: I have a personal story about this. My oldest daughter went to a catholic primary school for the first 2 years of her schooling. The intention was to enrol my younger daughter in the catholic school as well when she was old enough. One day my older daughter came home from school and started talking to me about the 14 stations of the cross. Anyone know what that is? I didn't at the time so I googled it. What I found shook me to the core. These intellectually handicapped adults were brainwashing my child to become as intellectually handicapped as them - in short, child abuse!
From another thread:
Quote:But seriously, both my daughters went to Anglican-based very expensive private schools. Ok, don't ask questions it just happened, ok? There were secular options but I blame myself for not enrolling them there. It is what it is.
So you knowingly abused your own children by enrolling them in another Christian school, after having the first epiphany...
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RE: Christian Parents Abuse their Children
November 21, 2017 at 8:52 am
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Like i said. I'm pretty sure this person is a troll and just pulling obnoxious BS out of his ass.
The crazy thing is the handful of posters who are actually taking him seriously and agreeing with him, kudosing his posts, etc.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Christian Parents Abuse their Children
November 21, 2017 at 9:22 am
(November 20, 2017 at 7:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: But look at the people you meet every day - the bus driver, the girl who hands you the fizzy drink and the burger through the little window, the neighbor who works two jobs to feed her three kids, your doctor, your solicitor, the bloke who walks dogs for a living, that cop who gave you the ticket.
Well I used to think that. If we're talking about personal experience then the thing that actually prompt me to be more active as an atheist is when I saw all those people you mention standing up against gay marriage with no other reason but because they heard it from their priests. Not just that but vile fairy tale stories about how wicked homosexuals are. It scared me, to be frank, because who knows who is next. Jews? I tell you I became aware that there is something more disturbing in them under the surface.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Christian Parents Abuse their Children
November 21, 2017 at 9:30 am
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RE: Christian Parents Abuse their Children
November 21, 2017 at 9:31 am
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(November 21, 2017 at 9:22 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: (November 20, 2017 at 7:21 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: But look at the people you meet every day - the bus driver, the girl who hands you the fizzy drink and the burger through the little window, the neighbor who works two jobs to feed her three kids, your doctor, your solicitor, the bloke who walks dogs for a living, that cop who gave you the ticket.
Well I used to think that. If we're talking about personal experience then the thing that actually prompt me to be more active as an atheist is when I saw all those people you mention standing up against gay marriage with no other reason but because they heard it from their priests. Not just that but vile fairy tale stories about how wicked homosexuals are. It scared me, to be frank, because who knows who is next. Jews? I tell you I became aware that there is something more disturbing in them under the surface.
What's your point? You may not agree with some theists' views on legalizing gay marriage (considering not all of us are against it), but that doesn't mean those individuals are abused, maladjusted people who can't make their way in the world.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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