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RE: Atheist Douches Object to Gospel Music at MLK Celebration
February 10, 2018 at 11:50 am
King's use of Biblical verses and imagery in his cause had to inspire intense consternation in the religious bigots then. Talking about a 'Promised Land" to Jim Crow era blacks was definitely a message/conclusion that was going to inspire his followers and dismay his opponents mightily.
I'd even say his message to his oppressors would be a not so subtle "You're not doing it right!" Comparing them to a Pharaoh who in their beliefs was definitely on the wrong side of God was something they would not like having their noses rubbed in. And then utilizing church music to emphasize his points was a basic Religion 101 thing to do.
King's religious training gave him quite an arsenal, if you will, to accomplish all that he did in his short life.
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RE: Atheist Douches Object to Gospel Music at MLK Celebration
February 10, 2018 at 1:02 pm
(February 9, 2018 at 10:41 pm)Minimalist Wrote: (February 9, 2018 at 2:10 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: I don't not like gospel music due to my atheism, I don't like it because I don't like how it sounds.
Well..... I mean if you want to compare it to this shit....
yeah... it's better.
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RE: Atheist Douches Object to Gospel Music at MLK Celebration
February 10, 2018 at 1:15 pm
(February 10, 2018 at 1:02 pm)Wololo Wrote: (February 9, 2018 at 10:41 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Well..... I mean if you want to compare it to this shit....
yeah... it's better.
Do muslims sing?
No, they wear oversized novelty thimbles, and they whirl:
If the book of Apocalypse is religion on a bad trip, sufiism is religion on a good trip.
Sufism was the only religion I joined . About 3 years in my twenties before I defaulted back to my apatheistic world view. The Sufi's are the flower children of Islam. Some are more orthodox like the Dervishes. Some are real hippies like Sufi Sam's bunch in the Bay area. That is who I associated with. No rules at all. Eat, smoke, drink, sex. No restrictions. The main precept was very Zen. Everything you think, is wrong. So, thinking scotch is good is wrong. Thinking scotch is bad is wrong also.
Had a lot of fun. Even joined in the Whirling a few times. Drank a bit of scotch too.
So, there is music and singing in some Islamic orders. We sang Hindu, Shaker, Christian songs. The Dervish music goes on for hours and can become improvisational depending on the emotions whirling around.
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RE: Atheist Douches Object to Gospel Music at MLK Celebration
February 10, 2018 at 4:40 pm
(February 10, 2018 at 10:12 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: But, Cap'n, it was at a school ON MLK DAY. Not DURING school. School was out that day. That makes all the difference. People chose to come participate in the event which just happened to be on school grounds. If this happened during the school day, I'd feel differently about it too.
Was it? That's not really clear in the article. I mean, we had MLK day assemblies at school, I sort of assumed it was during one of those. Again, the information isn't clear, and the article seems pretty slanted. I'm skeptical until I get more information.
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RE: Atheist Douches Object to Gospel Music at MLK Celebration
February 10, 2018 at 4:52 pm
(This post was last modified: February 10, 2018 at 4:54 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
It's a difference that makes no difference, anyway. If a public school is used to legitimize christer devotionals that's a problem,...even off hours. The christians would (and do) realize that if a school hosted islamic or pagan devotionals instead.
We'd never hear the end of it, in fact.
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RE: Atheist Douches Object to Gospel Music at MLK Celebration
February 10, 2018 at 4:58 pm
Martin Luther King had a 'big tent' approach for his organization. If someone was willing to help and had skills/ideas, King was willing to have them regardless of any 'baggage' they may have accrued on their way to his organization.
Google Bayard Rustin sometime.
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I think King might have looked askance at some of the criticisms in this thread had they been voiced in 1960 as I am doing now.
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RE: Atheist Douches Object to Gospel Music at MLK Celebration
February 10, 2018 at 6:02 pm
(February 9, 2018 at 10:41 pm)Minimalist Wrote: (February 9, 2018 at 2:10 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: I don't not like gospel music due to my atheism, I don't like it because I don't like how it sounds.
Well..... I mean if you want to compare it to this shit....
yeah... it's better.
Do muslims sing?
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RE: Atheist Douches Object to Gospel Music at MLK Celebration
February 10, 2018 at 6:20 pm
(February 10, 2018 at 10:55 am)Cecelia Wrote: Pathological Liar Todd Starnes makes up news story so the Christians can feel oppressed. Are people really this gullible?
A cursory search on the internet reveals that... the only person reporting this nonsense is... Todd Starnes. You'll see nothing about it on the FFRF website, or anywhere else on the web. I wonder why. Oh right, Todd Starnes is a liar. A pathological liar who likes to make up oppression stories so that he can masturbate to his oppression complex.
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RE: Atheist Douches Object to Gospel Music at MLK Celebration
February 10, 2018 at 7:02 pm
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RE: Atheist Douches Object to Gospel Music at MLK Celebration
February 10, 2018 at 7:11 pm
King was influenced by Gandhi also. Guess we should be singing "Hare Krishna" in the schools too!
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