Going for the double-down eh Rayaan? Not just this conspiracy, but a vast network of conspiracies. If we wanted Afghanistan, it'd be a state by now, such is the benefit of reckless defense budgeting.

Rayaan, there are people who make a living out of selling horseshit to gullible fools. Many of them are preachers/imams and we'll dismiss them for the moment.

There are people who write books about Atlantis and Ancient Aliens and Ghosts and the Bermuda Triangle and Big Foot and the Loch Ness Fucking Monster. None of them have any fucking evidence to back up their claims and it doesn't even slow them down. This 9-11 shit is more of the same. A bunch of clowns write books to sell to gullible fools who gobble it up.

Did you ever wonder why, if this is such a big secret conspiracy that the government is allowing these shits to walk around blowing the whistle? If the "government" was as effective as you seem to think these motherfuckers would be floating in a river with a bullet hole behind the ear.
As Bill Maher said of "government conspiracies:" 'The government isn't up to it.....the government can't deliver the mail.'

Floating my ass, stomach full of rocks, cold water.

Quote:" 'The government isn't up to it.....the government can't deliver the mail.'

Just so. Somebody said something like:

Quote: Never attribute to conspiracy or malice that which can be explained by incompetence or stupidity.

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(August 29, 2011 at 3:06 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Rayaan, you're 80% a truther? I am surprised.

I'm actually stunned.I've always seen Rayaan as quite reasonable and sane.

However,the guy IS a theist,so subject to cognitive dissonance.

I'm not going to say that it was a inside job, but i wouldn't be minimally surprised if it was

Quote:Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.
Napoleon Bonaparte

(August 29, 2011 at 9:56 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.
Napoleon Bonaparte

Pedant

(August 29, 2011 at 7:27 pm)Minimalist Wrote: There are people who write books about Atlantis and Ancient Aliens and Ghosts and the Bermuda Triangle and Big Foot and the Loch Ness Fucking Monster. None of them have any fucking evidence to back up their claims and it doesn't even slow them down. This 9-11 shit is more of the same. A bunch of clowns write books to sell to gullible fools who gobble it up.

Those books are not necessarily comparable to the 9/11 book. Why would you think so?

The author seems to have done a lot of research and he refers to specific reports, documents, and eye-witness accounts of certain events which most people are not informed about from watching the news. These are not 100% proofs that 9/11 was a false-flag attack - and of course, everyone can make mistakes in analyzing something - but I still think that many of the details and information are trustable and thus very likely to be true, IMO.

(August 29, 2011 at 7:27 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Did you ever wonder why, if this is such a big secret conspiracy that the government is allowing these shits to walk around blowing the whistle? If the "government" was as effective as you seem to think these motherfuckers would be floating in a river with a bullet hole behind the ear.

These people are a part of the CIA, who oftentimes engage in covert operations, and they would be allowed to walk around if their actions are carried out for the purpose of political control and/or or achieving a desired goal for the country. They can arrange plans and strategies such as false-flag terror attacks without Americans knowing about them because they do it secretly.

As I posted in my first reply, there are many examples of such a thing happening in the past, i.e. that a government inflicts harm to it's own people and then blames it on a foreign country (to use that as a pretext for an invasion of that country). Hitler did this when he was ready to attack Poland, which started the European part of World War II; Japan did it when it was ready to attack Manchuria, which started the Asian part of that war; In 1962, the Pentagon’s Joint Chiefs of Staff proposed a false-flag attack by killing American citizens to use that as a pretext for invading Cuba. Here's the link once again:

Governments From Around the World ADMIT That They Carry Out False Flag Terror

(August 29, 2011 at 9:12 pm)padraic Wrote: I'm actually stunned. I've always seen Rayaan as quite reasonable and sane.

I thought you already heard me say this earlier.
Bin Laden's Denial of 9/11 <--- You forgot about that thread (in which you replied to in the second page)?

If so, that's okay, because maybe it's just one those things about getting older. But at least you still have a rational brain.

Quote:If so, that's okay, because maybe it's just one those things about getting older. But at least you still have a rational brain.

Mate I belong to five forums. I tend to forget most posts,and where I posted them. Plus, of course I reserve the right to change my mind,about anything,at any time.

But yes, you're right; my short-term memory isn't what it once was.The long term memory is just dandy.

I think you've fallen for the Cold War CIA mythos Rayaan. Just about a bunch college kids collecting data and running numbers nowadays partner. "There's nothing to see here".