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Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic

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Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
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RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 6, 2018 at 10:55 pm
(March 6, 2018 at 9:02 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Odin is not a necessary being. So it doesn't matter. Next.

Prove he isn’t.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

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RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 6, 2018 at 10:57 pm
(March 6, 2018 at 10:55 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(March 6, 2018 at 9:02 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Odin is not a necessary being. So it doesn't matter. Next.

Prove he isn’t.

LFC playing the role of GC! Big Grin
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RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 6, 2018 at 11:00 pm (This post was last modified: March 6, 2018 at 11:14 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(March 6, 2018 at 10:57 pm)Grandizer Wrote:
(March 6, 2018 at 10:55 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Prove he isn’t.

LFC playing the role of GC!  Big Grin

I have a feeling that this is going to be a great thread.  😏
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RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 6, 2018 at 11:10 pm (This post was last modified: March 6, 2018 at 11:49 pm by Jenny A.)
No, no, no. Odin is just one of several necessary beings. At the beginning there was the world of fire inhabited by Surt,  and the world of ice inhabited by Ymir the giant, a great cow, and under the ice there was Buri.  Ymir and Buri are necessary beings as our world is made of Ymir's corpse by Buri's grandsons.  Odan is one of those three grandsons.  All of the gods are his children.  He made the first people Ask and Embla out of washed up logs.


It makes as much sense as Genesis ever did.
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RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 6, 2018 at 11:11 pm
(March 6, 2018 at 11:10 pm)Jenny A Wrote: No, no, no. Odan is just one of several necessary beings. At the beginning there was the world of fire inhabited by Surt, and the world of ice inhabited by Ymir the giant, a great cow, and under the ice there was

Yep, makes a lot of sense. Big Grin
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RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 6, 2018 at 11:32 pm (This post was last modified: March 6, 2018 at 11:33 pm by Succubus.)
(March 6, 2018 at 10:52 pm)Grandizer Wrote:
(March 6, 2018 at 10:46 pm)wheatpenny Wrote: Really there's no such thing as a "necessary being". There is no person anywhere in the universe who absolutely must exist, whose existence is absolutely required. All of us are optional.  While I am still on the fence as to the existence of the divine, science has explained the existence of the universe without divine intervention, therefore, whether there is a God or not, it is not absolutely essential that he must exist.

But you know ... God is "maximally great" ... but only in specific ways defined by Christian philosophers like Alvin Plantinga. Therefore, God is necessary and possible ... and true! Therefore, JESUS!

No one can top such logic, no one!

Well there's Paul Tillich with his unreadable 'Ground of Being' verbiage. But then doesn’t that sum up all theology, they invent an impenetrable language to disguise the fact that they have nothing.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 6, 2018 at 11:37 pm
(March 6, 2018 at 11:32 pm)Succubus Wrote:
(March 6, 2018 at 10:52 pm)Grandizer Wrote: But you know ... God is "maximally great" ... but only in specific ways defined by Christian philosophers like Alvin Plantinga. Therefore, God is necessary and possible ... and true! Therefore, JESUS!

No one can top such logic, no one!

Well there's Paul Tillich with his unreadable 'Ground of Being' verbiage. But then doesn’t that sum up all theology, they invent an impenetrable language to disguise the fact that they have nothing.

Correct, with the exception of Norsian theology, which is the only theology that leads to truth!
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RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 6, 2018 at 11:51 pm
While god is not necessarily debunked it's safe to say that God of the Bible is debunked since it's proven that all events from the Bible never happened.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 7, 2018 at 1:08 am (This post was last modified: March 7, 2018 at 1:11 am by Astreja. Edit Reason: Fenris Wolf ate my link )
(March 6, 2018 at 8:39 pm)Grandizer Wrote: In fact, we have PROOF that all the Norse gods and goddesses and giants did exist in the past, but that they were all destroyed during the Ragnarok. And the PROOF? They no longer exist! Big Grin

Finally, someone who gets it!  Ragnarök isn't an end-times prophesy; it's a past event.  Evidence:  The town of Gimli, Manitoba, which is mentioned in the Völuspá from the Elder Edda.




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RE: Disproving Odin - An Experiment in arguing with a theist with Theist logic
March 7, 2018 at 2:34 am
(March 6, 2018 at 9:15 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Ridicule does not invalidate my point.

You haven't made a point.
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