My challenge to Rik:

Get a scientific book about evolution. Read it. All the way through.

That's it. Nothing further, just read it.

(March 7, 2018 at 4:18 am)robvalue Wrote: My challenge to Rik:

Get a scientific book about evolution. Read it. All the way through.

That's it. Nothing further, just read it.

That is not a challenge Rob.  
That is a suggestion.  
The challenge Rob is right here on this thread.
You can challenge me to demonstrate that evolution is related to the progress of the infinite consciousness and I challenge you to demonstrate that that is not the case.

Are you ready?  

The progress of the infinite consciousness.

I have everything by the Mahavishnu Orchestra but I don't recall that one. Perhaps it was found in a archive and only now released. Please tell me more.

(March 7, 2018 at 4:35 am)Little Rik Wrote:

(March 7, 2018 at 4:18 am)robvalue Wrote: My challenge to Rik:

Get a scientific book about evolution. Read it. All the way through.

That's it. Nothing further, just read it.

That is not a challenge Rob.  
That is a suggestion.  
The challenge Rob is right here on this thread.
You can challenge me to demonstrate that evolution is related to the progress of the infinite consciousness and I challenge you to demonstrate that that is not the case.

Are you ready?  

You know, I began researching the progress of the infinite consciousness and LR might be on to something. Really! I referenced the New Age BS Generator and found these snippets:

"Throughout history, humans have been interacting with the quantum soup via sub-atomic particles. Who are we? Where on the great mission will we be awakened? We are in the midst of a transformative ennobling of being that will be a gateway to the dreamscape itself."

"Consciousness consists of expanding wave functions of quantum energy. “Quantum” means a deepening of the ethereal. Transcendence is the driver of balance. Transformation requires exploration."

"Truth requires exploration. The nexus is full of atomic ionization. Life-force is a constant."

"The quantum cycle is calling to you via vibrations. Can you hear it? Although you may not realize it, you are consciousness-expanding. How should you navigate this infinite multiverse?"

Wow , Man! I can feel my chakras getting all jiggly!

It is a challenge, because I know how much you will resist doing it. It will be hard for you.

(March 7, 2018 at 4:15 am)Little Rik Wrote: Exactly as I already knew son.        

You are full of it.   
You stated that when you die also consciousness in you is gone and now instead of giving evidence that that is the case you say something else that is irrelevant to the evidence.  
Fail once again son.  

I'm explaining evolution to you, not searching out some answer suitable to your religion.  Corpses don't have babies. Feel free to object to this or any other thing, but your objections do not have the ability to change the reality of that fact.

Quote:Evolution is a word that stand for progress.
Nothing much special in the word evolution except that if you are the one who evolve then it means a lot to you.

No, it's not.  Evolution refers to change.  "Progress" would be your religious interpretation.

Quote:Religion on the other hand has nothing to do with evolution except for you  that you are so keen to mix it in every dish you cook.
You are obsessed with religion son.  

Here, we finally agree.  Religion has nothing to do with evolution, so perhaps you could be so lucid as to stop inserting your fruity religion into a discussion where you're "trying to understand evolution"?  Nothing that the yogi bear says has any bearing on that discussion.

Little Rik:

(March 7, 2018 at 8:31 am)Khemikal Wrote:

(March 7, 2018 at 4:15 am)Little Rik Wrote: Evolution is a word that stand for progress.
Nothing much special in the word evolution except that if you are the one who evolve then it means a lot to you.

No, it's not.  Evolution refers to change.  "Progress" would be your religious interpretation.

Darwin labeled biological evolution as "descent with modification." That is the definition you, Little Rik, need to confront. You need to show that consciousness goes from one life to the next, carrying the advantages with it, and that there is modification of consciousness somewhere within that process (learning doesn't actually modify consciousness). According to you, humans are the pinnacle of evolution, and that when they reincarnate, they don't remember their past life. So, by definition, there can be no descent with modification for humans as they are at the end of the line. And we have no evidence of NDEs in plants and animals, so you're shit out of luck there. Where's your evidence for "descent with modification" ?

So, that's the burden you have assumed, and by my lights, you haven't come close to meeting it for consciousness.

One wonders what advantages are supposed to persist after reincarnation if the slate is wiped anyway.  Why do I have to keep learning to read, goddammit?  That shit consumes years at a pop, lifetimes even....how much of my infinite reincarnated life has been spent relearning to wipe my ass, for that matter?

(March 7, 2018 at 4:18 am)robvalue Wrote: My challenge to Rik:

Get a scientific book about evolution. Read it. All the way through.

That's it. Nothing further, just read it.

(March 7, 2018 at 6:58 pm)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote:

(March 7, 2018 at 4:18 am)robvalue Wrote: My challenge to Rik:

Get a scientific book about evolution. Read it. All the way through.

That's it. Nothing further, just read it.

Oh come on Gawd . That's way to advanced for Rik