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RE: Remove Vulgar Thread Titles
March 19, 2018 at 4:09 pm
(This post was last modified: March 19, 2018 at 4:15 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
A69 exists so that the boards aren't used to disseminate pornographic material to minors, which would be illegal. Calling the pope a whore..on the other hand, is not illegal.
Have you become a language snowflake? Do you need a safe space?
For what it's worth..the very minute this place starts deciding "vulgar" language is verboten I'm peacing right the fuck out. It';d save the poor mods the trouble of booting me when I inevitably saying something "vulgar" like "your fairy story is un-conconvincing bullshit" either in a thread title or the thread proper.
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RE: Remove Vulgar Thread Titles
March 19, 2018 at 4:13 pm
@Neo
FWIW, I have opened a staff discussion on your request.
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RE: Remove Vulgar Thread Titles
March 19, 2018 at 4:20 pm
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(March 19, 2018 at 4:08 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: What I meant was words carry meaning and the notion that no one should care because words are just words, doesn't really work.
Sure, but most swear words don't actually have any more or less meaning than other innocuous words. They're considered vulgar (common) because they're slang and snobby people didn't like common people, so you have swear words. For example, bitch, when used as a swear, means difficult, complain or rude. "This bolt is a bitch to get off." "She's been bitching about that all day long." "That lady at the drive-thru is always bitchy in the morning." Another example is fuck. Fuck can be used a number of ways, none of them are even insulting. They're just too "common" or "vulgar" for the posh types. Fuck can mean to have sex, it can be used as an adjective like very. My point is that the vast majority of swears are completely harmless and carry no extra meaning than their more acceptable synonyms, whereas racial slurs are not and don't have acceptable synonyms. They're not "common" language. They are terms used by racist people to denigrate people of a certain race.
(March 19, 2018 at 4:09 pm)Khemikal Wrote: A69 exists so that the boards aren't used to disseminate pornographic material to minors, which would be illegal. Calling the pope a whore..on the other hand, is not illegal.
Have you become a language snowflake? Do you need a safe space?
For what it's worth..the very minute this place starts deciding "vulgar" language is verboten I'm peacing right the fuck out. It';d save the poor mods the trouble of booting me when I inevitably saying something "vulgar" like "your fairy story is un-conconvincing bullshit" either in a thread title or the thread proper.
I reckon you'd see a mass exodus. I also reckon the majority of the staff is 100% against this.
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RE: Remove Vulgar Thread Titles
March 19, 2018 at 4:24 pm
(This post was last modified: March 19, 2018 at 4:39 pm by Neo-Scholastic.)
(March 19, 2018 at 3:54 pm)Shell B Wrote: As something of an English language expert, I call bullshit. You don't have to plumb the depths of your thesaurus to produce forceful, meaningful, concise language. In fact, it is much preferred that you use a more conversational tone in anything short of technical writing.
Generally I agree. Of course there is a continuum, from a private conversation with a friend to an instruction manual. At the same time, a perfectly good and appropriate Anglo-Saxon word from the Basic English lexicon is almost always available. No one appreciates a David Foster Wallace wanna-be.
And just to be absolutely clear I'm only talking about thread titles where it is already the express intent of the staff that titles be descriptive of the subject to be discussed. We already have a "Click Bait" rule. That's a judgement call also.
(March 19, 2018 at 4:20 pm)Shell B Wrote: Another example is fuck. Fuck can be used a number of ways, none of them are even insulting. They're just too "common" or "vulgar" for the posh types. Fuck can mean to have sex, it can be used as an adjective like very. My point is that the vast majority of swears are completely harmless and carry no extra meaning than their more acceptable synonyms...
Fuck is probably the least descriptive word precisely because it is used as a synonym for a very large number of words with very different meanings. And there is nothing "posh" about avoiding vulgarities. It's about creating a decent environment for all participants. Some graffiti is actually quite evocative and well-executed but I don't want to live in a city where every other building is covered with it.
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RE: Remove Vulgar Thread Titles
March 19, 2018 at 4:37 pm
The click bait rule no longer exists
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RE: Remove Vulgar Thread Titles
March 19, 2018 at 4:52 pm
(March 19, 2018 at 4:24 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: And just to be absolutely clear I'm only talking about thread titles where it is already the express intent of the staff that titles be descriptive of the subject to be discussed. We already have a "Click Bait" rule. That's a judgement call also.
That rule was rescinded not long after being implemented, due in no small part to the subjectivity required to determine what crossed the line, and what didn't.
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RE: Remove Vulgar Thread Titles
March 19, 2018 at 5:00 pm
(March 19, 2018 at 4:13 pm)Cathooloo Wrote: @Neo
FWIW, I have opened a staff discussion on your request.
Hopefully it'll get shot down in flames like it deserves to. This thread is simply Wooters pushing his periodical vindictive and hypocritcal ghoulbag line.
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RE: Remove Vulgar Thread Titles
March 19, 2018 at 5:08 pm
(March 19, 2018 at 4:52 pm)Cathooloo Wrote: (March 19, 2018 at 4:24 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: And just to be absolutely clear I'm only talking about thread titles where it is already the express intent of the staff that titles be descriptive of the subject to be discussed. We already have a "Click Bait" rule. That's a judgement call also.
That rule was rescinded not long after being implemented, due in no small part to the subjectivity required to determine what crossed the line, and what didn't.
I can understand not wanting to be constantly asked to weigh-in on every perceived infraction of a rule.
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RE: Remove Vulgar Thread Titles
March 19, 2018 at 5:20 pm
(This post was last modified: March 19, 2018 at 7:00 pm by The Valkyrie.)
I have no problem with a little swearing in titles.
But I get pissed off when it's overdone, particularly when it's overdone just to troll.
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RE: Remove Vulgar Thread Titles
March 19, 2018 at 5:35 pm
Is Trump a swear word?
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