(March 22, 2018 at 5:34 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(March 22, 2018 at 4:16 pm)The Industrial Atheist Wrote: You know I'm not sure I would or wouldn't. I don't think I could know for sure unless it actually happened.
I don't think it would bother me. Especially if they were really sweet to me.
But I can't guarantee that it wouldn't if it really happened.
I think I could understand secrets, as I have my own and belong to 2 stigmatized groups myself.
Maybe the idea of coming into contact with male type ejaculate during sex doesn't seem so hot.

I am sure you can find plenty of gays and heterosexual women who would not like the stickiness of ejaculate. Regardless of orientation many humans don't like what they see as warm sloppy body fluids. I like giving women oral, but I have run into men who don't. I think it would be for the same reason. It still amounts to personal comfort. 

Even with mere kissing between heterosexuals. I have dated females who don't like French kissing and others who have no problem exchanging deep throat tongue. I have talked to men on both sides of kissing too.

Some humans don't mind the "messiness" of the fluids, others do. I don't think it is just about male ejaculate. It still ultimately amounts to consent and comfort level.

Same can be said with anal, regardless of LGBT or heterosexual.

Well I would take large amounts of the female stuff as a compliment. Even though it might possibly be that it's just how she is that she makes a lot of it.

(March 22, 2018 at 6:19 pm)AFTT47 Wrote:

(March 22, 2018 at 3:59 pm)Shell B Wrote: No one doubted that there were people who have douche reasons. The thing that seems surprising to some is that there are people who aren't "transphobic" who still wouldn't fuck someone who is transgender.

Yeah, you would think that would be obvious.

Maybe some of the people here are under the impression that a transgender woman has a vagina like one who was born a woman. It's not remotely like that though. I've seen pictures and it's nasty. We don't have the medical technology to truly change someone's sex. It's an illusion that seems to serve the purpose of making someone feel better who previously felt like they were trapped in the wrong body.

I've been looking for pics out of curiosity and can't find any...

(March 22, 2018 at 6:19 pm)AFTT47 Wrote:

(March 22, 2018 at 3:59 pm)Shell B Wrote: No one doubted that there were people who have douche reasons. The thing that seems surprising to some is that there are people who aren't "transphobic" who still wouldn't fuck someone who is transgender.

Yeah, you would think that would be obvious.

Maybe some of the people here are under the impression that a transgender woman has a vagina like one who was born a woman. It's not remotely like that though. I've seen pictures and it's nasty. We don't have the medical technology to truly change someone's sex. It's an illusion that seems to serve the purpose of making someone feel better who previously felt like they were trapped in the wrong body.

 What?

It is certainly true we cant transplant sexual organs like say a heart or kidney. But I have certainly seen on the web damned good jobs. If you were to ask me to choose between Tula (a transgender former James Bond girl) and the vagina  of Pamela Anderson, hands down Tula was far more astthetic  down there. Pamela looks like a bad gyro.

I'd only agree no matter what direction one goes, guy to girl, girl to guy, it isn't 100% perfect yet. But I have seen some damned good attempts. I think time and technology will bridge that image gap.

(March 22, 2018 at 8:57 pm)The Industrial Atheist Wrote:

(March 22, 2018 at 5:34 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I am sure you can find plenty of gays and heterosexual women who would not like the stickiness of ejaculate. Regardless of orientation many humans don't like what they see as warm sloppy body fluids. I like giving women oral, but I have run into men who don't. I think it would be for the same reason. It still amounts to personal comfort. 

Even with mere kissing between heterosexuals. I have dated females who don't like French kissing and others who have no problem exchanging deep throat tongue. I have talked to men on both sides of kissing too.

Some humans don't mind the "messiness" of the fluids, others do. I don't think it is just about male ejaculate. It still ultimately amounts to consent and comfort level.

Same can be said with anal, regardless of LGBT or heterosexual.

Well I would take large amounts of the female stuff as a compliment. Even though it might possibly be that it's just how she is that she makes a lot of it.

Even though female ejaculate is mostly pee

(March 22, 2018 at 8:57 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(March 22, 2018 at 6:19 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: Yeah, you would think that would be obvious.

Maybe some of the people here are under the impression that a transgender woman has a vagina like one who was born a woman. It's not remotely like that though. I've seen pictures and it's nasty. We don't have the medical technology to truly change someone's sex. It's an illusion that seems to serve the purpose of making someone feel better who previously felt like they were trapped in the wrong body.

I've been looking for pics out of curiosity and can't find any...

I also looked but I only found drawings.

(March 22, 2018 at 9:47 pm)Losty Wrote:

(March 22, 2018 at 8:57 pm)The Industrial Atheist Wrote: Well I would take large amounts of the female stuff as a compliment. Even though it might possibly be that it's just how she is that she makes a lot of it.

Even though female ejaculate is mostly pee

I'll take it over prostate fluid and sperm and...it's been awhile since I've gotten info.

(March 22, 2018 at 9:49 pm)The Industrial Atheist Wrote:

(March 22, 2018 at 9:47 pm)Losty Wrote: Even though female ejaculate is mostly pee

I'll take it over prostate fluid and sperm and...it's been awhile since I've gotten info.

It was just the one study I read. I think there may also be studies that say it’s not pee. So you never know. Either way, I think both are great but female seems to smell better and taste better in my experience, pee or not pee. Maybe that’s tmi for general forum post. I’m not sure.

(March 22, 2018 at 9:54 pm)Losty Wrote:

(March 22, 2018 at 9:49 pm)The Industrial Atheist Wrote: I'll take it over prostate fluid and sperm and...it's been awhile since I've gotten info.

It was just the one study I read. I think there may also be studies that say it’s not pee. So you never know. Either way, I think both are great but female seems to smell better and taste better in my experience, pee or not pee. Maybe that’s tmi for general forum post. I’m not sure.

Dunno. But I'm not offended.

(March 21, 2018 at 10:44 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:

(March 21, 2018 at 10:42 pm)c172 Wrote: OK, I got thrown off by "biologically male". To me, that term speaks to the present situation, not te former situation.

Now that we're clear, I voted "no".

Yep! "Biologically male" means they were born male and have male DNA, though they may identify as female.

“Biological” insinuates scientific truth.  But science doesn’t say a organism that is phenotypically female but has sex chromosomes commonly associated with the male is therefore male.  In fact one could make a strong case that sex is phenotypical trait, and sex chromosome merely show a high, but not perfect, correlation to sex in a specie

Also, the exact same chromosome trait that highly correlated to phenotypical male amongst humans, a X-Y chromosome pair, happen to highly correlated to females amongst many reasonably close related animals.   That suggest a particular style of sexual chromosome isn’t biologically most fundamentally determinative of sex amongst mammals.  Instead sex is defined by the style of the reproductive organ.

So a person with male sex chromosome but female genitalia is not “biologically” male.  That person is chromosomally like male, but biologically female.

You might argue the artificially reconstructed genitalia of a transsexual individual is cosmetic and not of the same type of tissue as in a functional genitalia of that sex. I think that is a fair point. But that does not make the person “biologically” of the original sex.

And i'll say it again Trans is not self identity it's a actual phenomenon which is why it's not classified as a delusion or a mental problem

https://debunkingdenialism.com/2013/12/0...-delusion/