So here in Tucson, Arizona a historic and very beautiful monastery has been sold. Unfortunately the monastery is not protected from being demolished because it is not registered as a historic place. However some plans that the buyer has is to convert it into a hotel or a spa. Personally while I am not religious myself nor do I have any personal connection to this building, this actually makes me quite uncomfortable for some reason. Seems it would be better to preserve this building to it's originality inside and out. It is only 80 years old, but still it is actually quite remarkable to drive by. We also have San Xavier Del Bac mission here as well which is also astounding. That thankfully is registered on the national registry. As I stated before, while I am not religious nor believe in a God, I do appreciate this architecture. What are your thoughts?

I think it is important to note that they did try to find a religious buyer, but that was a no go for them. Boy, if I was a billionaire or something I would buy buildings like these for a collection of the sort.

https://www.kgun9.com/news/local-news/hi...stery-sold

http://tucson.com/business/plan-unveiled...op-story-1

I mean, it always sucks when pretty buildings are torn down, but the fact that it's a religious facility doesn't really add any more to the feeling. My thoughts are pretty simple - beautiful building, would've been nice to keep it and it sucks it's getting torn down, but it has nothing to do with the fact that it's a religious building.

(March 30, 2018 at 9:54 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: but the fact that it's a religious facility doesn't really add any more to the feeling.

I agree! I just really like the historic value buildings like these have. I would feel the same way with historic neighborhoods being torn down in place of fancy new high rise apartments. And yes, they are considered that as well here. I guess I'm just a history junkie. lol

Yeah, and the fact that it's being replaced with a tourist trap makes it worse. 

(March 30, 2018 at 9:51 am)Libertarian God Wrote: So here in Tucson, Arizona a historic and very beautiful monastery has been sold. Unfortunately the monastery is not protected from being demolished because it is not registered as a historic place. However some plans that the buyer has is to convert it into a hotel or a spa. Personally while I am not religious myself nor do I have any personal connection to this building, this actually makes me quite uncomfortable for some reason. Seems it would be better to preserve this building to it's originality inside and out. It is only 80 years old, but still it is actually quite remarkable to drive by. We also have San Xavier Del Bac mission here as well which is also astounding. That thankfully is registered on the national registry. As I stated before, while I am not religious nor believe in a God, I do appreciate this architecture. What are your thoughts?

I think it is important to note that they did try to find a religious buyer, but that was a no go for them. Boy, if I was a billionaire or something I would buy buildings like these for a collection of the sort.

https://www.kgun9.com/news/local-news/hi...stery-sold

http://tucson.com/business/plan-unveiled...op-story-1

One former holy place being turned into a secular business isn't going to kill religion. There are 360,000 active houses of worship in America of all the world's major religions.

There is a former church south of me that is now an upscale restaurant. 

I would not be for outlawing religion or doing such horrible things like Isis did in destroying the polytheistic art of antiquity, or what the Taliban did with the Buddhist statues. But if for example, say in the future, the Vatican went belly up financially, I would STILL keep the structure and art as a museum just like we preserve the pyramids.

Outside that, considering the volume of religious buildings, some of them being converted to non religious use isn't going to put religion in danger.

I even  know of an atheist couple who converted a former Church into their single family home.

They could always demolish it and rebuild it in Las Vegas to be used as a casino.

(March 30, 2018 at 10:02 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(March 30, 2018 at 9:51 am)Libertarian God Wrote: So here in Tucson, Arizona a historic and very beautiful monastery has been sold. Unfortunately the monastery is not protected from being demolished because it is not registered as a historic place. However some plans that the buyer has is to convert it into a hotel or a spa. Personally while I am not religious myself nor do I have any personal connection to this building, this actually makes me quite uncomfortable for some reason. Seems it would be better to preserve this building to it's originality inside and out. It is only 80 years old, but still it is actually quite remarkable to drive by. We also have San Xavier Del Bac mission here as well which is also astounding. That thankfully is registered on the national registry. As I stated before, while I am not religious nor believe in a God, I do appreciate this architecture. What are your thoughts?

I think it is important to note that they did try to find a religious buyer, but that was a no go for them. Boy, if I was a billionaire or something I would buy buildings like these for a collection of the sort.

https://www.kgun9.com/news/local-news/hi...stery-sold

http://tucson.com/business/plan-unveiled...op-story-1

I would not be for outlawing religion or doing such horrible things like Isis did in destroying the polytheistic art of antiquity, or what the Taliban did with the Buddhist statues. But if for example, say in the future, the Vatican went belly up financially, I would STILL keep the structure and art as a museum just like we preserve the pyramids.

Exactly. Like I said this has nothing to do with it being a religious building, it is just the historic value that I think is important. Sorry if I wasn't making this clear.

I wouldn't make keeping something or tearing it down about it being religious. It depends on case by case and mainly if enough people in that local care to preserve it.

Human history is worldwide but not every building has the same infamy to the same scale. 

The University of Tampa started out in the late 1890s as a Hotel, just because it started out as one, doesn't mean it had to stay a hotel. 

No matter the building use, national or world history still depends on case by case..

If I for example, were to die and become a famous poet after I am dead, some might want to preserve one of my dwellings, but considering that I have lived multiple places, it would be unrealistic to preserve all of them.

(March 30, 2018 at 10:18 am)Brian37 Wrote: I wouldn't make keeping something or tearing it down about it being religious. It depends on case by case and mainly if enough people in that local care to preserve it.

Human history is worldwide but not every building has the same infamy to the same scale. 

The University of Tampa started out in the late 1890s as a Hotel, just because it started out as one, doesn't mean it had to stay a hotel. 

No matter the building use, national or world history still depends on case by case..

If I for example, were to die and become a famous poet after I am dead, some might want to preserve one of my dwellings, but considering that I have lived multiple places, it would be unrealistic to preserve all of them.

Very interesting and some good thoughts

(March 30, 2018 at 10:02 am)Mathilda Wrote: They could always demolish it and rebuild it in Las Vegas to be used as a casino.

...and a brothel.