Quote:those seeking social success generally had to profess atheism and to stay away from houses of worship; this trend became especially militant during the middle Stalinist era from 1929 to 1939. The Soviet Union attempted to suppress public religious expression over wide areas of its influence, including places such as central Asia

Congrats now show me were atheism a absence of belief in god doctrinally obligates a person or compels as a necessity  to being an atheist (having an absence of belief in god) to suppress religion or force people to proclaim atheism . No such necessity or obligation exists thus stalin acted on violent authoritarianism not atheism . Because as i said you can't  do something in the name of atheism. It's of skepticism of a single claim and nothing more . These frequently sad attempts at making non belief something it's not sounds desperate.

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Oh and well we're at it your god technically still gets the blame for Stalin's acts as he as he did nothing to stop Stalin . Just saying 

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Oh and lastly your whole argument huggy is a giant Tu quoque fallacy and a whole wade of whataboutism .

(April 22, 2018 at 2:26 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:

(April 22, 2018 at 1:18 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: The truth is Christian virtue had never been some abstract standard conceived out of nobility of spirit, and next to which real people fall short to various degrees.  It was always a tissue depliciously conceived to corral the gullible and empower the unscrupulous and the opportunistic.

It never set out virtue, it merely unscrupulously borrowed the Good name of existing virtues to serve the ends of the most loathsome and disreputable human scum in history,

Except when one points out the outlier that is Stalin, it's "he didn't commit atrocities because of atheism" all of the sudden... Christianity has been around for 2000 years, what you describe has existed since time immemorial  and has nothing to do with "religion" but is a product of human nature which is not at all inherently virtuous, hence the saying "absolute power corrupts absolutely".

You do realise that as a loyal son of the orthodox church Stalin was more christian than you are?

Orthodox does hew closer to original formula Jesusism.

Still, horribly mutated, but compared to the rest, actually pretty amazing.

Huggy incorrectly claiming that atheism is a religion yet again in 3... 2... 1....

(April 23, 2018 at 1:25 am)Tizheruk Wrote: You can't commit and act for atheism or because of atheism .You can only commit an act in this regard because of yourself . I'll repeat it their is no conceivable way to get from i don't accept the existence of god  to atrocities . End of story .

The Atheist Atrocities fallacy will always be just that a fallacy 

Look closely at what the article states.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism

Quote:State atheism, according to Oxford University Press's A Dictionary of Atheism, "is the name given to the incorporation of positive atheism or non-theism into political regimes, particularly associated with Soviet systems."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_a...ve_atheism

Quote:Negative atheism, also called weak atheism and soft atheism, is any type of atheism where a person does not believe in the existence of any deities but does not explicitly assert that there are none. Positive atheism, also called strong atheism and hard atheism, is the form of atheism that additionally asserts that no deities exist.

(February 13, 2017 at 7:40 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: I don't hate God. I hate a fictional depiction in a story book in fact several story books . Just the way I hate jar jar binks and he also likely doesn't exist. You can in fact hate something that doesn't exist we do it all the time.

*emphasis mine*
You, among many others here do not simply lack belief, you hold the belief that no God exist; positive-atheism as stated in the article. Ideologies can and were formed around that principle, so miss me with the attempts at obfuscation.

Called it

(April 23, 2018 at 10:26 am)KevinM1 Wrote: Called it

What did you call exactly? You just going to ignore the fact that atheist religions actually exist?

(April 23, 2018 at 10:37 am)Huggy74 Wrote:

(April 23, 2018 at 10:26 am)KevinM1 Wrote: Called it

What did you call exactly? You just going to ignore the fact that atheist religions actually exist?

He called that you're skipping like a broken LP.

Beams and motes again . . .

Here’s the thing: even positive/gnostic atheism in and of itself has no doctrine. There’s no inherent demand or order in any flavor of atheism to eliminate religious practice altogether. No, such acts committed by a state are simply a way to oppress, homogenize, and control people. It’s really no different than our history of forcing slaves or indigenous peoples to practice Christianity rather than their own beliefs.

Atheism has no mandate.