RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 5, 2018 at 11:07 pm
(This post was last modified: May 5, 2018 at 11:08 pm by possibletarian.)
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 5, 2018 at 11:08 pm
(This post was last modified: May 5, 2018 at 11:09 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(May 5, 2018 at 11:05 pm)CDF47 Wrote:(May 5, 2018 at 11:02 pm)Quick Wrote: Black holes are complex... Are they also made explicitly by a creator? So what? You think shannon info requires a god too. Something being complex -or- simple isn't a difference, to you...and because of this, one thing being simple and one thing being complex is no particular indication of anything. You butchered that one.
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 (May 5, 2018 at 11:05 pm)CDF47 Wrote:(May 5, 2018 at 11:02 pm)Quick Wrote: Black holes are complex... Are they also made explicitly by a creator? How do you know that black holes don't have information/a code? Stephen Hawking had a theory that black holes store the information that they take in on the surface of their surface area. That can very well be viewed as information/a code. Now that we have out of the way that it's possible that black holes can store information/a code, we are back to my previous statement where I said these beliefs cannot be made based on rationality alone considering we DON'T know.  Quote:Again, that's Shannon information. It is not specified and complex. However, based on the fine-tuning of the universe, I believe the entire universe is designed so the black hole is also designed, ultimately. DNA contains information/a code!And we already been over this . This distinction is ID bullshit and excuse making .
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Inuit Proverb  RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 5, 2018 at 11:12 pm
(This post was last modified: May 5, 2018 at 11:13 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Honestly, how hard would it be to just accept that you got the whole ID thing wrong..and still believe in a god? You told us it wouldn;t matter anyway. Seems to me like the door is wide open and all you need to do is step inside.
(the number of believing scientists and the number of scientists who accept id are not the same number, anyway)
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Of course even if I.D. were true, It will not mean that the Christian god is any less absurd. or the bible any more true.
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One can give subjective meaning to their own life but that does not mean there is any objective meaning to life as such
There is no evidence for any such meaning. The Universe has no purpose or function. It merely exists. No more no less It is only human beings that want there to be some objective meaning to life because they are generally afraid of death But death is the point where consciousness no longer exists so it cannot be experienced so then there is nothing to fear
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Quote:The scientific community disagrees with you. 51 percent of scientists are believers and 41 percent are non-believers based on a Pew poll result. Once the stigma of ID wears old, I expect that number to increase even more for believers. Also, 89 percent of people in the US believe in God based on a Gallup poll.1. Just because scientist believe something personally does not make that thing scientific . Even if the numbers we 90% it wouldn't matter . 2. Believing in god does not mean you believe in ID . 3. ID has barely grown in 17 years . That stigma is here to stay . As ID isn't science it's just religious apologetics disguising itself as science .
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Inuit Proverb RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 5, 2018 at 11:22 pm
(This post was last modified: May 5, 2018 at 11:26 pm by Quick.)
(May 5, 2018 at 11:06 pm)Khemikal Wrote:(May 5, 2018 at 10:58 pm)Quick Wrote: My views stem from experiences that have happened to myself and others that cannot be explained rationally.Like seeing Elvis, you mean? ofc not. I mean things like how quantum mechanics work and the law of attraction and things of that nature. (May 5, 2018 at 11:06 pm)Khemikal Wrote:(May 5, 2018 at 10:58 pm)Quick Wrote: In short, I believe that there is meaning to our existence and you cannot have meaning without an other thinking said thing has meaning.If all you needed was an other thinking thing...well, you're surrounded by them. I;m not sure what gods have to do with that. Right. And there is also a whole lot we don't know about consciousness either. I don't believe consciousness is deterministic anyways. One argument I have made about consciousness and whether we can know whether we are the only thing that exists in the past, is in our a priori knowledge that an other (could very well be a person and I don't think that changes the argument) exists in the first place. Why would this be a given in the first place? It shouldn't be, but it is. Our development of life in the first place is what I am talking about. I don't think you are making the argument that we are the "first" life form. If we are not, what is the big distinction between the universe itself being the first living thing and us? |
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