And another thing. Jebus on the cross? Since Jebus is actually god, he knew full well that he was sacrificing nothing in the first place. He knew for a fact that he would not die or be anywhere next or near it. He knew beforehand that he would rise along with the Jewish zombie apocalypse that nobody noticed.

The whole tale is flat out fantasy. One must assume that you think Pinocchio is a documentary.

(May 6, 2018 at 8:08 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: And another thing. Jebus on the cross? Since Jebus is actually god, he knew full well that he was sacrificing nothing in the first place. He knew for a fact that he would not die or be anywhere next or near it. He knew beforehand that he would rise along with the Jewish zombie apocalypse that nobody noticed.  

The whole tale is flat out fantasy. One must assume that you think Pinocchio is a documentary.

Yes, the Creator overcame death for His creation.

Quote:Yes, the Creator overcame death for His creation.

Lol 

1. Where do the information bearing properties of DNA come from?
2. Please describe the origins of genetic information.
3. DNA is located in a protein molecule. It takes DNA to build a protein. Which came first, the DNA or the protein?
4. Please provide a step-by-step natural explanation of the process of how DNA is copied and transferred to an assembly line where amino acids are linked together precisely as instructed, then formed into a functional protein, then transported to an exact location in a protein machine prior to machine operation. Explain how all the transport systems work. Explain the sequences of operation, the communication protocol, the operations of the machines, the assembly instructions, energy harvesting,.... Please explain how this all happened naturally.

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The DNA that was formally referred to as "junk DNA" is no longer junk DNA. It is non-coding DNA. It acts like an operating system (over 85 percent of the DNA). 3 percent is used for coding.

Some great information below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noncoding_DNA

(May 5, 2018 at 10:22 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 5, 2018 at 10:13 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: Uh, no

The debate you imagined isn’t over because it could never start.  

There could never be any debate involving your cult. With you there is only a echo chamber of calculating hucksters and gullible wish thinking fools affirming an infantile preconceived notion because your cult threaten you with hellfire and load you with Unscrupulous guilt trip if you don’t.

The serious debate could never involve the likes of your kind.   Amongst serious scientists the debate has been over for a hundred years.  There is neither evidence nor need for design.  Natural elements sufficient to convince of their adequacy is readily to be found for each and every step needed from prelude to life to you.

So take your head out of sand made from jesus capolite.

The scientific community disagrees with you.  51 percent of scientists are believers and 41 percent are non-believers based on a Pew poll result.  Once the stigma of ID wears old, I expect that number to increase even more for believers.  Also, 89 percent of people in the US believe in God based on a Gallup poll.

http://www.pewforum.org/2009/11/05/scien...nd-belief/
http://news.gallup.com/poll/193271/ameri...e-god.aspx

1st poll is misleading because itis not current. 2nd poll is misleading because it doesn't provide a definition for scientist. 3rd you are lying about the data. Only 33% percent of self described scientists believe in a god or gods.

(May 6, 2018 at 8:47 am)Wololo Wrote:

(May 5, 2018 at 10:22 pm)CDF47 Wrote: The scientific community disagrees with you.  51 percent of scientists are believers and 41 percent are non-believers based on a Pew poll result.  Once the stigma of ID wears old, I expect that number to increase even more for believers.  Also, 89 percent of people in the US believe in God based on a Gallup poll.

http://www.pewforum.org/2009/11/05/scien...nd-belief/
http://news.gallup.com/poll/193271/ameri...e-god.aspx

1st poll is misleading because itis not current.  2nd poll is misleading because it doesn't provide a definition for scientist.  3rd you are lying about the data. Only 33% percent of self described scientists believe in a god or gods.

Not lying about 3rd.  They believe in a higher power (believer I wrote) as contrasted with unbeliever.

. Where do the information bearing properties of DNA come from? 

Quote:2. Please describe the origins of genetic information. 
3. DNA is located in a protein molecule. It takes DNA to build a protein. Which came first, the DNA or the protein? 
4. Please provide a step-by-step natural explanation of the process of how DNA is copied and transferred to an assembly line where amino acids are linked together precisely as instructed, then formed into a functional protein, then transported to an exact location in a protein machine prior to machine operation. Explain how all the transport systems work. Explain the sequences of operation, the communication protocol, the operations of the machines, the assembly instructions, energy harvesting,.... Please explain how this all happened naturally.

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The DNA that was formally referred to as "junk DNA" is no longer junk DNA. It is non-coding DNA. It acts like an operating system (over 85 percent of the DNA). 3 percent is used for coding.

Some great information below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noncoding_DNA

This has already been addressed [/url]

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Do i need to mention Wikipedia considers ID Pseudoscience  

Quote:Intelligent design (ID) is a religious [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument]argument for the existence of God, presented by its proponents as "an evidence-based scientific theory about life's origins",[1][2] though it has been discredited as 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design

(May 6, 2018 at 8:54 am)Tizheruk Wrote: . Where do the information bearing properties of DNA come from? 

Quote:2. Please describe the origins of genetic information. 
3. DNA is located in a protein molecule. It takes DNA to build a protein. Which came first, the DNA or the protein? 
4. Please provide a step-by-step natural explanation of the process of how DNA is copied and transferred to an assembly line where amino acids are linked together precisely as instructed, then formed into a functional protein, then transported to an exact location in a protein machine prior to machine operation. Explain how all the transport systems work. Explain the sequences of operation, the communication protocol, the operations of the machines, the assembly instructions, energy harvesting,.... Please explain how this all happened naturally.

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The DNA that was formally referred to as "junk DNA" is no longer junk DNA. It is non-coding DNA. It acts like an operating system (over 85 percent of the DNA). 3 percent is used for coding.

Some great information below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noncoding_DNA

[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noncoding_DNA][/url]This has all  already been addressed

Your just repeating the same things over again  

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Plus do i need to mention that Wikipedia considers ID as pseudoscience.

Just posing four questions is all.

Quote:Just posing four questions is all.

No your trying an argument from ignorance and personnel credulity .

There are over 30 constants of the universe which are fine-tuned, such that if these mathematical figures were off by the most smallest fraction of a percent, life as we know it would not exist. The most finely tuned figure is the cosmological constant (energy density of the vacuum of space) which is fine tuned to an order of magnitude of 1:10^120. If that figure was off by that small a value, there would be no life. To give you an idea of the size of that number, there are approximately 10^80 elementary particles in the known universe and there have been 10^16 seconds since the creation of the universe in the Big Bang approximately 13.8 billion years ago. By the way, back to DNA, the probability of building a short functional protein from amino acids is 1:10^164. Just amazing!