(May 6, 2018 at 9:18 am)Tizheruk Wrote:

Quote:1 - 4: The scientific community disagrees.

No it doesn't .

Quote:1 - 4: It is His will

In your imagination

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Quote:The feelings are mutual then.

Nope it's totally one sided . Guess who's side it is.

Spoilers it's not ours .

If highly sophisticated digital code found in DNA does not convince you there is a Designer and Creator, what would?

(May 6, 2018 at 8:41 am)CDF47 Wrote: 1. Where do the information bearing properties of DNA come from?  

Chemistry.

(May 6, 2018 at 8:41 am)CDF47 Wrote: 2. Please describe the origins of genetic information.  

Be precise. What information?

(May 6, 2018 at 8:41 am)CDF47 Wrote: 3. DNA is located in a protein molecule. It takes DNA to build a protein. Which came first, the DNA or the protein?  

Wow
that is so messed up that up is down.

(May 6, 2018 at 8:41 am)CDF47 Wrote: Please provide a step-by-step natural explanation of the process of how DNA is copied and transferred to an assembly line where amino acids are linked together precisely as instructed, then formed into a functional protein, then transported to an exact location in a protein machine prior to machine operation. Explain how all the transport systems work. Explain the sequences of operation, the communication protocol, the operations of the machines, the assembly instructions, energy harvesting,....  Please explain how this all happened naturally.

Sure right after you provide an explanation why damn meteors have 74 amino acids and we have a mere 22.

(May 6, 2018 at 8:41 am)CDF47 Wrote: The DNA that was formally referred to as "junk DNA" is no longer junk DNA.  It is non-coding DNA.  It acts like an operating system (over 85 percent of the DNA).  3 percent is used for coding.

Lying for jebus. Colour me unsurprised.

(May 6, 2018 at 8:41 am)CDF47 Wrote: Some great information below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noncoding_DNA

Nobody here is responsible for your incomprehension, you do not get to offload that on everyone else.

(May 6, 2018 at 9:20 am)Wololo Wrote:

(May 6, 2018 at 8:52 am)CDF47 Wrote: Not lying about 3rd.  They believe in a higher power (believer I wrote) as contrasted with unbeliever.

Higher power =/= god.  Pantheists believe in a higher power without believing in a god.  So do a lot of buddhists and confuscians.

The universe is fine-tuned and had a beginning and space had infinite curvature according to Hawkings' calculations which means there was 0 space and 0 matter.  Out of nothing came everything. The Creator transcends the universe.

Quote:If highly sophisticated digital code found in DNA does not convince you there is a Designer and Creator, what would?

None of you ID buzzwords and long rejected and long refuted ID talking points . ID is pseudoscience pure and simple .

Quote:The universe is fine-tuned and had a beginning with infinite curvature according to Hawkings' calculations which means it had 0 space and 0 matter.  The Creator transcends the universe.

Once again this was already addressed earlier .

(May 6, 2018 at 9:26 am)Tizheruk Wrote:

Quote:If highly sophisticated digital code found in DNA does not convince you there is a Designer and Creator, what would?

Nothing you have presented so far 

Quote:The universe is fine-tuned and had a beginning with infinite curvature according to Hawkings' calculations which means it had 0 space and 0 matter.  The Creator transcends the universe.

Once again this was already addressed earlier .

It was in response to a poster's comments so it became relevant again.

(May 6, 2018 at 9:22 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 6, 2018 at 9:20 am)Wololo Wrote: Higher power =/= god.  Pantheists believe in a higher power without believing in a god.  So do a lot of buddhists and confuscians.

The universe is fine-tuned and had a beginning with infinite curvature according to Hawkings' calculations which means it had 0 space and 0 matter.  The Creator transcends the universe.

The fine tuning argument goes like this "we exist, therefore the universe exists to allow us to exist, therefore the universe is fine tuned". Strong finetuning assumes this is the only configuration that supports life.

Where it failz is that it assumes the universe exists to service us, not that we exist because we are adapted to a small corner ot the universe.

Still all you say is irrelevant because it gets you no closer to proving yhwh.

(May 6, 2018 at 9:20 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 6, 2018 at 9:18 am)Tizheruk Wrote: No it doesn't .


In your imagination

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Nope it's totally one sided . Guess who's side it is.

Spoilers it's not ours .

If highly sophisticated digital code found in DNA does not convince you there is a Designer and Creator, what would?

Well that's easy. The creator could show the fuck up. Somehow, your creator likes to hide. From everyone. Because reasons.

Do you really think there is a god? Why? there is no reason to buy such baloney. One might as well propose that Leprechauns are real. Does that guide your life?

(May 6, 2018 at 9:28 am)Wololo Wrote:

(May 6, 2018 at 9:22 am)CDF47 Wrote: The universe is fine-tuned and had a beginning with infinite curvature according to Hawkings' calculations which means it had 0 space and 0 matter.  The Creator transcends the universe.

The fine tuning argument goes like this "we exist, therefore the universe exists to allow us to exist, therefore the universe is fine tuned".  Strong finetuning assumes this is the only configuration that supports life.

Where it failz is that it assumes the universe exists to service us, not that we exist because we are adapted to a small corner ot the universe.

Still all you say is irrelevant because it gets you no closer to proving yhwh.

It proves a Creator and that science has reached somewhat of a plateau pointing at design.  From here it is time to start looking into theology.

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(May 6, 2018 at 9:30 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(May 6, 2018 at 9:20 am)CDF47 Wrote: If highly sophisticated digital code found in DNA does not convince you there is a Designer and Creator, what would?

Well that's easy. The creator could show the fuck up. Somehow, your creator likes to hide. From everyone. Because reasons.

Do you really think there is a god? Why? there is no reason to buy such baloney. One might as well propose that Leprechauns are real. Does that guide your life?

100 percent I believe in God.  There is highly sophisticated code in DNA.  The universe is fine-tuned.  It's His will what He chooses to do and not do.

Quote:It proves a Creator

No it does not 

 

Quote:and that science has reached somewhat of a plateau pointing at design

no it has not 

Quote:.  From here it is time to start looking into theology.

Theology is mental masterbation of how many angels would fit on the head of a pin . I has less then zero worth .

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Quote:100 percent I believe in God.  

Good for you 

Quote:There is highly sophisticated code in DNA.

Their is not 

 

Quote:The universe is fine-tuned. 

No it's not 

Quote: It's His will what He chooses to do and not do

Excuses excuses

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Quote:It was in response to a poster's comments so it became relevant again.

it really wasn't 

(May 6, 2018 at 9:32 am)Tizheruk Wrote:

Quote:It proves a Creator

No it does not 

 

Quote:and that science has reached somewhat of a plateau pointing at design

no it has not 

Quote:.  From here it is time to start looking into theology.

Theology is mental masterbation of how many angels would fit on the head of a pin . I has less then zero worth .

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Quote:100 percent I believe in God.  

Good for you 

Quote:There is highly sophisticated code in DNA.

Their is not 

 

Quote:The universe is fine-tuned. 

No it's not 

Quote: It's His will what He chooses to do and not do

Excuses excuses

Yes it does X 3
Yes there is
Thank you
No excuses
Yes it was

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The sky is blue.
Water is wet.

Do you agree Tizheruk?