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DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
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 (May 6, 2018 at 11:07 am)Tizheruk Wrote:(May 6, 2018 at 11:06 am)CDF47 Wrote: I did a search with 0 results foundLol again you miss the point I skimmed it. I am looking for a paper that answers my 4 questions or at least tries to address it. These papers don't even come close. I glanced at this one and it looks like more non-sensible propaganda. The information in DNA is the key. There is no explanation for it outside of design. 
Lol then your more lost than i thought
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Inuit Proverb  (May 6, 2018 at 11:14 am)CDF47 Wrote:(May 6, 2018 at 11:07 am)Tizheruk Wrote: Lol again you miss the point And if there is not an answer to you questions (yet) therefore god? That's caveman logic, fantasy boy. Time for you to pack up your dog and one trick pony show and leave town.
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Scientific method:
![[Image: XzkufTA.png]](https://i.imgur.com/XzkufTA.png) ID method: It looks designed / I can't believe this could happen without being designed, therefor it's designed. It tells us nothing, explains nothing, has no practical applications, includes no testable hypotheses, makes no predictions and so isn't science. It's an abandonment of science for the argument from ignorance. Feel free to send me a private message.
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May 6, 2018 at 11:23 am
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(May 6, 2018 at 11:22 am)mh.brewer Wrote:Their is that too(May 6, 2018 at 11:14 am)CDF47 Wrote: I skimmed it. I am looking for a paper that answers my 4 questions or at least tries to address it. These papers don't even come close. I glanced at this one and it looks like more non-sensible propaganda. The information in DNA is the key. There is no explanation for it outside of design. But Carrier does undermine his questions . (May 6, 2018 at 11:23 am)robvalue Wrote: Scientific method: Quote:Intelligent design (ID) is a religious argument for the existence of God, presented by its proponents as "an evidence-based scientific theory about life's origins",[1][2] though it has been discredited as pseudoscience.[3][4][5]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design
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Inuit Proverb (May 6, 2018 at 11:22 am)mh.brewer Wrote:(May 6, 2018 at 11:14 am)CDF47 Wrote: I skimmed it. I am looking for a paper that answers my 4 questions or at least tries to address it. These papers don't even come close. I glanced at this one and it looks like more non-sensible propaganda. The information in DNA is the key. There is no explanation for it outside of design. No, there will never be a natural answer to those 4 questions because the answer is already found and it is designed.
Are you under the impression that theres no such thing as a natural design? Wouldn;t that undermine the credibility of your belief in ID even further? Not only is nothing specifically indicative of design.....the natural mechanism in order to accomplish some hypothetical design deosn;t even exist.
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May 6, 2018 at 11:33 am
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Quote:No, there will never be a natural answer to those 4 questions because the answer is already found and it is designed.lol wrong And again argument from ignorance and credulity . One trick pony indeed . (May 6, 2018 at 11:32 am)Khemikal Wrote: Are you under the impression that theres no such thing as a natural design? Wouldn;t that undermine the credibility of your belief in ID even further? Not only is nothing specifically indicative of design.....the natural mechanism in order to accomplish some hypothetical design deosn;t even exist.And Carrier has already undermined the central ideal of supernatural design.
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May 6, 2018 at 11:34 am
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Put another way..if we're willing to conceptualize some biologocial teleology, a natural mechanism sufficient to produce those designs must exist in order for the divine to impose it;s will on it. The trouble being, if it does..then the imposition of a divine will is incidental, not necessary. If it doesn;t, than it;s not a biological intelligent design in any way, it operates by no known mechanism.
It;s a free floating miracle, untethered to population genetics or dna or specificity or generality or complexity or simplicity. May as well assert mud man and rib woman and be done with it.
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(May 6, 2018 at 11:27 am)CDF47 Wrote:(May 6, 2018 at 11:22 am)mh.brewer Wrote: And if there is not an answer to you questions (yet) therefore god? That's caveman logic, fantasy boy. Then what is your purpose for being here and making the argument? If nothing will change your mind (like so many christians of the past/present when faced with new information that does not fit with the god story) it seems pointless and a waste of time. It does not matter what pro/con arguments are put forward, for you there will always be god, for me there will never be. But if you want to continue to beat a dead horse be my guest. There is still golden ticket at the end. That is fantasy delusion.
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