(May 11, 2018 at 3:59 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 11, 2018 at 3:56 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Yes they did. Requiring a god is a delusional falsehood. Stop making things up. You'll regret it later.

No, those machines came from the designer of DNA who programmed them to be built and function in that way.

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Baloney. That is the god-of-the-gaps, argument from incredulity and non-sequitur all rolled into one. Do you think for an instant that every time scientists encounter something they don't know/don't understand they immediately conclude god-did-it?

If you think that way then why would science continue at all? How is god any sort of explanation for anything? Do you think cosmologists should simply stop researching the big bang because god-did-it?

(May 11, 2018 at 3:59 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 11, 2018 at 3:57 pm)surreptitious57 Wrote: Nothing in that video says DNA was designed as you keep claiming it was
The complexity of DNA is evidence only of its complexity and nothing else

The DNA is what encoded the amino acid components to encode the protein/molecular machines operating in that video.  If you believe that, you are blind to reason.

You are not using reason. You are using the scribblings of bronze age goat-herders as though they had meaning. In actual fact, the holey babble is brim full of contradictions, absurdities, etc.

You are simply an adult who believes in magic.

(May 11, 2018 at 4:20 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(May 11, 2018 at 3:59 pm)CDF47 Wrote: No, those machines came from the designer of DNA who programmed them to be built and function in that way.

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Baloney. That is the god-of-the-gaps, argument from incredulity and non-sequitur all rolled into one. Do you think for an instant that every time scientists encounter something they don't know/don't understand they immediately conclude god-did-it?

If you think that way then why would science continue at all? How is god any sort of explanation for anything? Do you think cosmologists should simply stop researching the big bang because god-did-it?

(May 11, 2018 at 3:59 pm)CDF47 Wrote: The DNA is what encoded the amino acid components to encode the protein/molecular machines operating in that video.  If you believe that, you are blind to reason.

You are not using reason. You are using the scribblings of bronze age goat-herders as though they had meaning. In actual fact, the holey babble is brim full of contradictions, absurdities, etc.

You are simply an adult who believes in magic.

Straw man argument.  I did not say every time a scientist encounters something they don't understand they should assume God did it.  Nice debate trick though.  My point was the specified and complex information programming these sophisticated machines was designed and you tried to spin my argument and attack the Bible.  Nice tricks but not this time.

(May 11, 2018 at 4:24 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 11, 2018 at 4:20 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Baloney. That is the god-of-the-gaps, argument from incredulity and non-sequitur all rolled into one. Do you think for an instant that every time scientists encounter something they don't know/don't understand they immediately conclude god-did-it?

If you think that way then why would science continue at all? How is god any sort of explanation for anything? Do you think cosmologists should simply stop researching the big bang because god-did-it?

You are not using reason. You are using the scribblings of bronze age goat-herders as though they had meaning. In actual fact, the holey babble is brim full of contradictions, absurdities, etc.

You are simply an adult who believes in magic.

Straw man argument.  I did not say every time a scientist encounters something they don't understand they should assume God did it.  Nice debate trick though.  My point was the specified and complex information programming these sophisticated machines was designed and you tried to spin my argument and attack the Bible.  Nice tricks but not this time.

Not a strawman because it is exactly what you are doing. Don't know how DNA evolved? God-did-it.

Don't understand the big bang? God-did-it.

As for the bible, you raised that poorly written fiction in the first place. You claimed to believe in the christian god of the bible.

(May 11, 2018 at 4:33 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(May 11, 2018 at 4:24 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Straw man argument.  I did not say every time a scientist encounters something they don't understand they should assume God did it.  Nice debate trick though.  My point was the specified and complex information programming these sophisticated machines was designed and you tried to spin my argument and attack the Bible.  Nice tricks but not this time.

Not a strawman because it is exactly what you are doing. Don't know how DNA evolved? God-did-it.

Don't understand the big bang? God-did-it.

As for the bible, you raised that poorly written fiction in the first place. You claimed to believe in the christian god of the bible.

What you did is a classic straw man argument and you know it.  I didn't say we don't know how DNA evolved God did it.  I said it is extremely sophisticated and highly complex and specific functional information which programs amino acid components to build functional molecular machines/proteins to operate in the cell is why it is designed.

I understand the Big Bang Theory and explained why everything came from nothing so a Creator must have created this fine-tuned universe.

I claimed to be a follower of the Christian religion because of the discussion I was having with one of the posters at the time.  Quit the spin, most people can see right through it. Although I wouldn't expect much less from someone that uses the devil's name from the Book of Revelation.

(May 11, 2018 at 4:44 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 11, 2018 at 4:33 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Not a strawman because it is exactly what you are doing. Don't know how DNA evolved? God-did-it.

Don't understand the big bang? God-did-it.

As for the bible, you raised that poorly written fiction in the first place. You claimed to believe in the christian god of the bible.

What you did is a classic straw man argument and you know it.  I didn't say we don't know how DNA evolved God did it.  I said it is extremely sophisticated and highly complex and specific functional information which programs amino acid components to build functional molecular machines/proteins to operate in the cell is why it is designed.

I understand the Big Bang Theory and explained why everything came from nothing so a Creator must have created this fine-tuned universe.

I claimed to be a follower of the Christian religion because of the discussion I was having with one of the posters at the time.  Quit the spin, most people can see right through it.  Although I wouldn't expect much less from someone that uses the devil's name from the Book of Revelation.

And you follow a false idol and will face the great boiling.

Also; 5/10 try harder

(May 11, 2018 at 4:54 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote:

(May 11, 2018 at 4:44 pm)CDF47 Wrote: What you did is a classic straw man argument and you know it.  I didn't say we don't know how DNA evolved God did it.  I said it is extremely sophisticated and highly complex and specific functional information which programs amino acid components to build functional molecular machines/proteins to operate in the cell is why it is designed.

I understand the Big Bang Theory and explained why everything came from nothing so a Creator must have created this fine-tuned universe.

I claimed to be a follower of the Christian religion because of the discussion I was having with one of the posters at the time.  Quit the spin, most people can see right through it.  Although I wouldn't expect much less from someone that uses the devil's name from the Book of Revelation.

And you follow a false idol and will face the great boiling.

Also; 5/10 try harder

I think I'll just leave this post alone.

(May 11, 2018 at 4:44 pm)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 11, 2018 at 4:33 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Not a strawman because it is exactly what you are doing. Don't know how DNA evolved? God-did-it.

Don't understand the big bang? God-did-it.

As for the bible, you raised that poorly written fiction in the first place. You claimed to believe in the christian god of the bible.

What you did is a classic straw man argument and you know it.  I didn't say we don't know how DNA evolved God did it.  I said it is extremely sophisticated and highly complex and specific functional information which programs amino acid components to build functional molecular machines/proteins to operate in the cell is why it is designed.

I understand the Big Bang Theory and explained why everything came from nothing so a Creator must have created this fine-tuned universe.

I claimed to be a follower of the Christian religion because of the discussion I was having with one of the posters at the time.  Quit the spin, most people can see right through it.  Although I wouldn't expect much less from someone that uses the devil's name from the Book of Revelation.

Then you are claiming that the designer is NOT god? OK, who is it in that case?
No matter how oftenyou state it, DNA is not information, nor is it a machine. It is a complex molecule. Everything it does, it does by chemistry.



A yes, Angel of the Abyss, gatekeeper of hell. I find it amusing how easily that triggers believers in magic.

(May 11, 2018 at 4:59 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(May 11, 2018 at 4:44 pm)CDF47 Wrote: What you did is a classic straw man argument and you know it.  I didn't say we don't know how DNA evolved God did it.  I said it is extremely sophisticated and highly complex and specific functional information which programs amino acid components to build functional molecular machines/proteins to operate in the cell is why it is designed.

I understand the Big Bang Theory and explained why everything came from nothing so a Creator must have created this fine-tuned universe.

I claimed to be a follower of the Christian religion because of the discussion I was having with one of the posters at the time.  Quit the spin, most people can see right through it.  Although I wouldn't expect much less from someone that uses the devil's name from the Book of Revelation.

Then you are claiming that the designer is NOT god? OK, who is it in that case?
No matter how oftenyou state it, DNA is not information, nor is it a machine. It is a complex molecule. Everything it does, it does by chemistry.



A yes, Angel of the Abyss, gatekeeper of hell. I find it amusing how easily that triggers believers in magic.

You spin every word I say.  People see through this.  I believe in the Christian God of the Holy Bible.  DNA contains genetic information like I said.  Proteins which are created are complex nano machines made of amino acid components which are highly sophisticated and complex.

I know you try to be agitating but I really hope it is reflected in your actual age.

(May 11, 2018 at 5:03 pm)CDF47 Wrote: You spin every word I say.  People see through this.

They are your words. You own them.

(May 11, 2018 at 5:03 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I believe in the Christian God of the Holy Bible.

Bible god is an immoral thug.

(May 11, 2018 at 5:03 pm)CDF47 Wrote: DNA contains genetic information like I said.

Not in the way you want it to.

(May 11, 2018 at 5:03 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Proteins which are created are complex nano machines made of amino acid components which are highly sophisticated and complex.

Wrong. It's chemistry pure and simple.

(May 11, 2018 at 5:03 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I know you try to be agitating but I really hope it is reflected in your actual age.

Wrong again. I simply have little patience for grown adults who believe in magic.

(May 11, 2018 at 5:12 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:

(May 11, 2018 at 5:03 pm)CDF47 Wrote: You spin every word I say.  People see through this.

They are your words. You own them.

(May 11, 2018 at 5:03 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I believe in the Christian God of the Holy Bible.

Bible god is an immoral thug.

(May 11, 2018 at 5:03 pm)CDF47 Wrote: DNA contains genetic information like I said.

Not in the way you want it to.

(May 11, 2018 at 5:03 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Proteins which are created are complex nano machines made of amino acid components which are highly sophisticated and complex.

Wrong. It's chemistry pure and simple.

(May 11, 2018 at 5:03 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I know you try to be agitating but I really hope it is reflected in your actual age.

Wrong again. I simply have little patience for grown adults who believe in magic.

Only 10 percent of the Bible is supernatural.  The Creator can do as He pleases with His creation which allows for some supernatural events.