(May 13, 2018 at 2:09 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 13, 2018 at 1:59 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: Again, no. Why don’t you shut the fuck up and let real scientist doing real science using real scientific methods tdetermine what signs they see and not see, and stop pretending your bible addled mind gives you leave to pipe up in any serious discussion?

There are serious scientists and great scientist that believe in a higher power in all fields.  More scientists believe in a higher power than there are atheistic scientists.  Some of the best scientists of all time believed in a higher power and in God and Newton said it actually helped him in his scientific field.

Just because great scientist are great at their job does not mean they are not stupid or delusional in regard to their religious beliefs. It is when the scientist allows his religious belief to interfere with the scientific method that he becomes less credible in his field of work.

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(May 13, 2018 at 2:09 am)CDF47 Wrote:

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(May 13, 2018 at 2:07 am)Kit Wrote: Intelligence is assumed, by people like you.  It can only be implied if there is actual evidence to back it up.

There is actual proof to support it.

If there was actual proof, there would be no reason for doubt.

(May 13, 2018 at 2:11 am)Kit Wrote:

(May 13, 2018 at 2:09 am)CDF47 Wrote: There are serious scientists and great scientist that believe in a higher power in all fields.  More scientists believe in a higher power than there are atheistic scientists.  Some of the best scientists of all time believed in a higher power and in God and Newton said it actually helped him in his scientific field.

Just because great scientist are great at their job does not mean they are not stupid or delusional in regard to their religious beliefs. It is when the scientist allows his religious belief to interfere with the scientific method that he becomes less credible in his field of work.

Well in this case the science pointed in that direction so it cannot be ignored.

(May 13, 2018 at 2:13 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 13, 2018 at 2:11 am)Kit Wrote: Just because great scientist are great at their job does not mean they are not stupid or delusional in regard to their religious beliefs. It is when the scientist allows his religious belief to interfere with the scientific method that he becomes less credible in his field of work.

Well in this case the science pointed in that direction so it cannot be ignored.

It can always be ignored if it is biased and does not follow the rules of how real science is approached and understood.

(May 13, 2018 at 2:11 am)Kit Wrote:

(May 13, 2018 at 2:09 am)CDF47 Wrote: There are serious scientists and great scientist that believe in a higher power in all fields.  More scientists believe in a higher power than there are atheistic scientists.  Some of the best scientists of all time believed in a higher power and in God and Newton said it actually helped him in his scientific field.

Just because great scientist are great at their job does not mean they are not stupid or delusional in regard to their religious beliefs. It is when the scientist allows his religious belief to interfere with the scientific method that he becomes less credible in his field of work.

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(May 13, 2018 at 2:09 am)CDF47 Wrote:

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There is actual proof to support it.

If there was actual proof, there would be no reason for doubt.

The only reason for doubt is evolutionists trying to suppress this obvious truth.

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(May 13, 2018 at 2:14 am)Kit Wrote:

(May 13, 2018 at 2:13 am)CDF47 Wrote: Well in this case the science pointed in that direction so it cannot be ignored.

It can always be ignored if it is biased and does not follow the rules of how real science is approached and understood.

It follows the rules of science.  The same rules Darwin applied actually are used in ID.  It is not biased but looks at what should be obvious to everyone and uses scientific criteria to understand it.

An obvious truth does not need to be suppressed.

Only overly dramatized religious concepts advertised as truth need be suppressed: like kids who believe in Santa Clause.

(May 13, 2018 at 2:14 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 13, 2018 at 2:11 am)Kit Wrote: Just because great scientist are great at their job does not mean they are not stupid or delusional in regard to their religious beliefs. It is when the scientist allows his religious belief to interfere with the scientific method that he becomes less credible in his field of work.

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If there was actual proof, there would be no reason for doubt.

The only reason for doubt is evolutionists trying to suppress this obvious truth.

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(May 13, 2018 at 2:14 am)Kit Wrote: It can always be ignored if it is biased and does not follow the rules of how real science is approached and understood.

It follows the rules of science.  The same rules Darwin applied actually are used in ID.  It is not biased but looks at what should be obvious to everyone and uses scientific criteria to understand it.

Again, no. Why don’t you shut the fuck up and let real scientist doing real science using real scientific methods tdetermine what signs they see and not see, and stop pretending your bible addled mind gives you leave to pipe up in any serious discussion?

(May 13, 2018 at 2:09 am)CDF47 Wrote: ...There are serious scientists and great scientist that believe in a higher power in all fields.  More scientists believe in a higher power than there are atheistic scientists.  Some of the best scientists of all time believed in a higher power and in God and Newton said it actually helped him in his scientific field...

I must be missing something, why is this idiot troll worth 150 pages?

(May 13, 2018 at 2:17 am)Kit Wrote: An obvious truth does not need to be suppressed.

Only overly dramatized religious concepts advertised as truth need be suppressed: like kids who believe in Santa Clause.

The truth is suppressed all the time.  Where have you been?  Look at the government cover-ups of operations like Gladio, Mockingbird, MK Ultra, FBI COINTELPRO, dragnet mass surveillance,.......  Secret societies and cults like Scientology cover-up their misdeeds like gangstalking and fair game.

Look at the suppression of science and scientists throughout history.

(May 13, 2018 at 2:25 am)CDF47 Wrote:

(May 13, 2018 at 2:17 am)Kit Wrote: An obvious truth does not need to be suppressed.

Only overly dramatized religious concepts advertised as truth need be suppressed: like kids who believe in Santa Clause.

The truth is suppressed all the time.  Where have you been?  Look at the government cover-ups of operations like Gladio, Mockingbird, MK Ultra, FBI COINTELPRO, dragnet mass surveillance,.......  Secret societies and cults like Scientology cover-up their misdeeds like gangstalking and fair game.

Look at the suppression of science and scientists throughout history.

And Christianity is different, how?  It's the same cover-up, just under the misguided impression of the majority who accept the religion as truth rather than the fiction it is.

(May 13, 2018 at 2:21 am)Succubus Wrote:

(May 13, 2018 at 2:09 am)CDF47 Wrote: ...There are serious scientists and great scientist that believe in a higher power in all fields.  More scientists believe in a higher power than there are atheistic scientists.  Some of the best scientists of all time believed in a higher power and in God and Newton said it actually helped him in his scientific field...

I must be missing something, why is this idiot troll worth 150 pages?

Because I won this argument on page 1 and the atheists continue to kick and scream.